Van Halen Sinner's Swing!

EVH was a maniac back in the day.

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[frankenstrat25]

haha true man the plexi gets low gain i have no clue how eddie got his live tone out of it. well he did always have his amp cranked all the fucking way up and the frankys body was a very thick heavy wood and the neck maple u already know this probably i babble alot. i think an over drive pedal is what u want if the gain is cuttin back on ya the classic remake ibanez tube screamer has good reviews u shud try it

[satchbooggy]

@frankenstrat25 my plexi does not lack gain haha It has been modified by a brown sound expert :)

[DarthKazi]

@satchbooggy Suprisingly Eddie's had little to no mods except for the Variac and Eddie's thrown up smoke screens for years saying either it was turned down (75-90 volts) or turned up (120-140 volts), so even there, you have to risk blowing up your tubes to get "that sound". John Suhr examined Ed's amp as had a few others and said it was a typical, bone stock Super Lead from the 12xxx serial number production.

"Brown sound" comes from the heart and fingers.

[satchbooggy]

@DarthKazi I agree his tone is 90% fingers. He could make any amp sound amazing, but the new amps are just too much. Lost all of that old school clarity. I personally think VH II was the best tone on record. Then WACF. I also find it very hard to believe his amp wasnt modified in some way....but hell who will ever know?

[DarthKazi]

@frankenstrat25 He used an echoplex which ads gain and his MXR phaser was modded by Jose Arrandando (his amp guy) to give more gain and treble (and less noise) for leads.

After they "made it", he stopped using the old Plexi live and used regular, modern (for the time) Marshalls live which had a bit more balls.

[satchbooggy]

@DarthKazi my marshall has tons of gain but its a bit too bitey. not sure if its my pickups or cab or both etc. I need to really warm it up some how for the VH II tone. The VH I tone is incredible but i prefer the darker warmer VH II tone.

[relzric]

I love the pics in the foreground.

[daverunner]

Satch you always do it best brother

[matriosca74]

This is in my opinion the most difficult guitar solo Eddie has done.

[DarthKazi]

@headlesssoldier He also used the "big bottle" 6CA7 tubes which were pentode "EL34" types but had more of a 6L6 response and tone.... which probably was why he eventually switched to 6L6 amps. Luckily JJ (Tesla) makes a GOOD 6CA7 tube, so those "tone chasers" can get that sound out of their Marshall with less effort. I'm thinking of getting a set for my Crate VC60 which is essentially a Marshall 1987 circuit with one extra preamp tube.

[headlesssoldier]

@DarthKazi i think he biased them really really hot also. When I learned how to bias (which is not hard), I used to push the top tolerance all the time. It sounds so fucking great....BUT..tubes will blow pretty quickly. Eddie could do it because he was in the big show and could switch to another head. I guess the way for us mere mortals is to have our heads modified.

[AxelNight13]

i call flawless!

[PARREZ]

nice playing

[MoralDestructor]

@satchbooggy Mr. Bray? :)

[Nickthereviews]

@frankenstrat25 I've read that he would use the variac to lower his voltage to 90% then he would go out of the amp to his effects then into an H&H power amp then into his speakers all the knobs dimed on his amp. Killer Tone! Nice job on my favorite Van Halen song BTW!

[frankenstrat25]

@satchbooggy dude u want warm tone get a PAF pickup its all eddie used on the first albums i think