A Real Mormon Speaks Out

A real Mormon speaks on Shawn McCraney's Heart Of The Matter show.

Jamie, a member of the FLDS church tells how she is soon to become a 3rd polygamous wife to a Mormon Priesthood Holder in order that she can be in Celestial Kingdom with God The Father and Jesus Christ.

Shawn in an amazing show of Christian reach out and Love,offers to help this FLDS girl with Biblical Theology in order to save her from this false and evil doctrine that Joseph Smith gave to the world so he could justify romping with teenager Fanny Alger in the barn and having extra marital sex with his teen house maids also.

For more on Heart Of The Matter with Shawn McCraney:

http://hotm.tv/

and more from Doris Hanson

http://www.aboutpolygamy.com/


Thank you to both Shawn and Doris for their amazing work. They both inspire me in my Ahtiestic struggles to believe in Jesus Christ.

I always remember in LDS church many times it was said " By their fruits he shall know them". Well Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor and all the rest of them certainly were rotten fruits, lying, manipulating, bullying and sheer thuggery.

Danites? Threats to take wives and families from those wanting to leave the church or disobey the orders from Leaders. Threats of being kicked to death for leaving the church or speaking out.

Yes it's all documented fact.

Journal Of Discourses 6:125 − p.126, Heber C. Kimball, December 13, 1857

"Jesus said to his disciples, "Ye are the salt of the earth; and if the salt loses its saving principle, it is then good for nothing but to be cast out." Instead of reading it just as it is, almost all of you read it just as it is not. Jesus meant to say, "If you have lost the saving principles, you Twelve Apostles, and you that believe in myservants the Twelve, you shall be like unto the salt that has lost its saving principles: it is henceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men." Judas lost that saving principle, and they took him and killed him. It is said in the Bible that his bowels gushed out; BUT THEY ACTUALLY KICKED HIM UNTIL HIS BOWELS CAME OUT.

"I will suffer my bowels to be taken out before I will forfeit the covenant I have made with Him and my brethren." Do you understand me? Judas was like salt that had lost its saving principles − good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men. It is just so with you men and women, if you do not honour your callings and cultivate the principles you have received. It is so with you, ye Elders of Israel, when you forfeit your covenants. Brethren and sisters, as the Lord liveth, and as we live and exist in these mountains, let me tell you the world is ripe, and there are no saving principles within them, with a very few exceptions; and they will gather out, and the rest of mankind are ready for destruction, for they will have no salt to save them. I know the day is right at hand when men will forfeit their Priesthood and turn against us and against the covenants they have made, AND THEY WILL BE DESTROYED AS JUDAS WAS."

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[scottwins2]

Joseph Smith's polygamous marriages to young women may seem difficult to understand or explain today, but in his own time such age differences were not typically an obstacle to marriage. The plural marriages were unusual, to say the least; the younger ages of the brides were much less so. Critics do not provide this perspective because they wish to shock the audience and have them judge Joseph by the standards of the modern era, rather than his own time.

[ElderJoseph]

@scottwins2 " Critics do not provide this perspective because they wish to shock the audience"

It's shocking stuff yes. Brigham Young was threatening HELL to coerce young girls into marrying old cult leaders.

Orson Pratt was screwing his 16 year old brides and he was in his fifties.

Mormons never Lead the way with any standards but live the worldly standards of their day and do it with more Aggression and Zeal than those they claim are infidels.

CUlt leaders SEX and MONEY!

[scottwins2]

apostate Mormons Ann Eliza Webb Young and her father Chauncery both referred to Fanny's relationship as a "sealing." Ann Eliza also reported that Fanny's family was very proud of Fanny's relationship with Joseph, which makes little sense if it was simply a tawdry affair. Those closest to them saw the marriage as exactly that—a marriage

[ElderJoseph]

@scottwins2 " Fanny's relationship with Joseph, which makes little sense if it was simply a tawdry affair. Those closest to them saw the marriage as exactly that—a marriage"

So NO Dynastic sealing here then? The ROMP in the barn was real. Was it their Honeymoon in the HAY! lol

Mormons are so stupid arguing both sides of their mouths!

[ElderJoseph]

@ElderJoseph " All the evidence points to this marriage as a primarily dynastic marriage. purrpose was likely to tie families together,"

If marrying 14 year old Helen was some kind of Dynastic Paper excercise to bind families only then why didn't Joseph Smith marry Heber Kimballs wife instead?? That would have done the job of binding families and he did marry other men's wives often.

Instead of OLD Vilate Kimball. Smith decides 14 yrs old Helen is preferable!!

Grooming for sex.

[ElderJoseph]

@scottwins2 " purrpose was likely to tie families together,"

So why does Helen recall "My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the alter”

Hardly some kind of dynastic paper excercise. And if Smith wasn't really marring anyone else in the proper sense then why did Beigham Young round up girls like Battery hens and screw them if Joseph never had that in mind and that polygamy was purley dynastic? BS cult BS.

Shove your ASSpologetics .. FAIRy nonsense. lol

[ElderJoseph]

@scottwins2 " Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833"

THis sounds like Mormon Apologist Cope and Paste.

DO NOT send me anymore CopY and PASTE SHITE from FAIRS and FARMS.

Either speak your own words or go and waste someone elses life and time.

[scottwins2]

@ElderJoseph Probably the wife about whom we know the least is Fanny Alger, Joseph's first plural wife, whom he came to know in early 1833 when she stayed at the Smith home as a house-assistant of sorts to Emma (such work was common for young women at the time). There are no first-hand accounts of their relationship (from Joseph or Fanny), nor are there second-hand accounts (from Emma or Fanny's family). All that we do have is third hand accounts, most of them recorded many years after...

[scottwins2]

@ElderJoseph historian Todd Compton wrote:

The Tanners made great mileage out of Joseph Smith's marriage to his youngest wife, Helen Mar Kimball. However, they failed to mention that I wrote that there is absolutely no evidence that there was any sexuality in the marriage, and I suggest that, following later practice in Utah, there may have been no sexuality. p. 638 All the evidence points to this marriage as a primarily dynastic marriage.

purrpose was likely to tie families together,

[ElderJoseph]

@scottwins2 " Relationships with Smith were Non-Conjucal"

What are you talking about? Every other Mormoin Polygamist was screwing his soccer team of chicks so why would they MISUNDERSTAND Smith?

And what business is it of yours what Joseph SMith did with his wives? How dare you even challenge his revelation and what he was doing with his brides. It's non of your business. Just PAY, PRAY and OBEY like a good cult recruit and hand over your wife or daughter to the Prophet if asked.