TPMtv: Sunday Show Roundup: No Bright Lines in the Sand

Your Daily Politics Video Blog: As the health care debate heats up over the summer one of the central arguing points will be the possibility of creating a "public" or government-run insurance option as part of the reform bill. We take a look at how the early argument is shaping up and how important a public option seems to be to President Obama in today's Sunday Show Roundup.

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[bobby200606]

GOP:

The party of No

The party of Torture

The party of Racism

The party of Economic Collapse

[micahgee]

"Best health care system in the world" WTF????

[papalosopher]

I agree, we shouldn't subsidize health care. We should own it. So there.

Your analogies, like most analogies, are bad. No, I don't insure clunkers, I don't buy hurricane insurance in Canada (where I'm from) those are bad investments. No one worth talking too would suggest those things. Public health care is worth talking about.

Illness is not always the fault of the ill. Obviously. We have to take care of ourselves. Clearly. Now let's move forward and talk about helping people.

[4GooMan]

The educational system refuses to be repaired. Think of it as "Skinner's Box". Money in, dummies out. We need a new box.

My points of view are none of us will live forever, medical technology has outstripped our ability to pay for it, patients care not enough about how they can prevent their maladies. It will be rationed either by the individual, the insurance company, or the government. The latter option will help me the least. And I am not that far above the poverty level.

[EFAIR3]

Over the years the educational system has deteriorated. Maybe I'm missing your point but the vouchers have nothing to do with the redirection of funds over the decades.

I can speak on my point of view but the when it comes time to get healthy a patient should not have to worry about cost. Thats putting a price on someones life based on net worth, you live as long as you can afford to.

[4GooMan]

Without full cost vouchers, private school becomes an unaffordable moot point for all working people already taxed for this service.

I can only speak for myself. This is not something I've just started talking about.

The issue confronting medical care is the interjection of an insurance company or the gov't between the doctor and patient. The patient has no vested interest in con-

trolling costs. And then they bitch because the premium goes up.

[4GooMan]

Not a GOP and don't know their proposal. I do know that as long as Feds susidize a venture, it will compete well against one without subsidy. And that subsidy is my tax dollar. Also, a private venture has no worry that it's "customers" will vote for more and more goodies and less co-pay.

[EFAIR3]

Your first point on the vouchers does not change my point of having the "option" of private schools.

Second its funny people start talking about individual accountability when times are hard.

The issues that are confronting the nation today are regulation or the lack there of in all industry.

[4GooMan]

I don't use emergency rooms unless I need a miracle in a hurry. It's too expen-

sive.If the people you mention were forced to plan ahead to go to a clinic and not use the ER as the first place to stop, if they were forced by clinics & practicioners to become a part of the solution, not the problem, if the freeloading was limited to a bed in a ward, not a private or semi-private room, then we'd pay a whole helluva lot less. As part of a political system, they'll always vote more, pay less!

[4GooMan]

When vouchers for the full cost of attending a government school are available, believe it - education will improve. When people are held accountable for their own self destruction (fatsos, dopers, VD patients, etc) the rest of us will pay a pittance. When freeloaders get to vote for more goodies, they will. "Public" option is not sustainable.

[4GooMan]

Quite a lot of illegal aliens. Quite a lot of the entitlement mentality - gimme more!

[4GooMan]

We give away a helluva lot more than the obscene tribute we pay the useless UN.