Uploaded by brainouty on Mar 7, 2008
I really like videos put out by ReligionIsACrutch, an atheist Youtuber group. They did one called "The Price of Faith" which raised a lot of good points.
Here's their link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BliMK_pbrGE
In a way, this video was inspired by theirs. It's not a 'response' or an attempt to debate. Yet flipside of the argument coin, maybe...
If we don't AUDIT what we believe, we are being incredibly silly. If atheist, why? If Christian, why? Many choose atheism to rebel against society. So too, many become Christian or convert to Islam, to rebel. Or, one picks a faith to be popular with his group. We will tell ourselves we are objective, of course. But are we?
One big justification we use, is CONSENSUS. Evolution is accepted in the name of so much 'scientific' consensus on it. Ok, by that same premise, one should the more accept theism (which evolution never precludes, as it's based on cause-and-effect).
Ok, um.. theistic consensus way outnumbers atheistic, historically. For 1000s of years, billions have worshipped one idea of 'god' or another. We differ vastly and even violently over what DEFINITION of "god" is true; but we never differ over WHETHER there is "god". Because, WE KNOW "god" exists. That's why we keep believing.
Now, since "god" by definition must be unseen (especially if Infinite in Nature), then evidence of Him would not be see-able to outsiders, since Unseen communicates to unseen: to the soul. Man has a soul. You cannot read thought biologically. So something UNseen controls biology, even as unseen truths (laws) control the universe; unseen math uniquely demonstrates the unseen. Math is immaterial, but real. Truth is immaterial, but real. And the material, is impacted by it. So that's the closest one comes to realizing via what you can see, that there is something you can't see which is likewise real. It warrants investigation.
Now, pretend there is a god -- which is logical, as the consensus is overwhelming both in numbers of witnesses and in durability (time length) of that witness -- pretend god exists: wouldn't it stand to reason that there is an afterlife? To which one goes, to be with this god? The question warrants investigation.
So Why are We not Atheists? For the simple reason that we all immaterially SEE God. Via our immaterial souls. We clearly don't see Him equally, we differ a lot on particulars; but so do any mass of witnesses to an event. I bet you couldn't get two people to exactly agree on the events of 9/11. But everyone would admit that 2 planes flew into the Twin Towers. They would likely disagree on most everything else, as any purview of the Youtube videos re 9/11, will show. So: the number of witnesses to "god" is billions of times greater, thousands of years LONGER, than witnesses to 9/11. So it will be more varied, especially if "god" reveals himself progressively (as Bible contends).
In a courtroom witnesses establish evidence. We theists are witnesses. Now, what upsets atheists is that they can't validate how this 'seeing' occurs. It is supernatural. But like truth and math, it has visible effects (i.e., we believe).
So here's an example: moi. Christians are SUPPOSED to live supernatural lives 24/7, says John 14:26. That is, Spirit teaches you Bible and recalls to your mind past Bible taught.
This function happens to me 24/7. I don't recall memorizing a verse since childhood (Lord's Prayer, Ps23, etc). So in this video, I wanted to find the "tumbleweed" verse, but couldn't. For I couldn't recall the Hebrew, I only vaguely remembered it was in Jeremiah. So I couldn't search it in BibleWorks. Since no English Bible uses "tumbleweed", I couldn't search it, either. I was about to give up, when "Jeremiah 17:6" sprang to mind. So I checked -- and yes, that's the verse. Now for the punchline: I heard that verse taught only once by my pastor, maybe 15-20 years ago. He used "tumbleweed" as the translation (Published Bibles say "bush", typical fuzz job, blecch).
See? That kind of supernaturality happens to me all day; I have no memory and even less patience. Other Christians have their own stories. We will restrict our stories to the prosaic, as we don't want to talk about the rest, the weird stuff we all experience.
So you the atheist, have to hotline it to "God", and ASK for the proof you need. For Unseen God, proves Himself to you individually. Via His Word, and to your soul. That's the best thing to do: just ask, "God, are you 'up there'?" If you want an answer, you'll get one. Else, He will leave you alone until you're ready. Don't wait too long.
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@brainouty Sigh. So many pretenders on Youtube. Christian pretenders, Muslim pretenders, atheist pretenders. BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU LIKE but DO YOUR HOMEWORK, if you expect to comment on my videos. I'll roast you alive, for not doing homework. Only for that.
brainouty 3 months ago
@hznfrst Actually, you can't. If you could, you'd never make such ignorant remarks. If you could read Greek, then you'd know how Paul swears. Bible swearing is common, even in Hebrew. So you just proved yourself a liar. Bye.
brainouty 3 months ago
@brainouty Actually I can read some Greek, and your presumption that I can't - or that your text is authentic - is evidence that you are the one who's full of shit. The very idea of prophecy is absurd and requires far more evidence than you or anyone has ever provided. You'r e nothing but a potty-mouthed, ignorant troll.
hznfrst 3 months ago
@hznfrst Rather less likely, since the Greek is 1st century, dummy. Do your homework before you parrot stuff you know nothing about. I show the Greek onscreen. We can prove it's first century, even as you can prove that the 1611 KJV was really written four centuries prior. IF YOU CAN READ THE LANGUAGE.
You can't. You're just another Youtube idiot spouting ignorant parrottings. Do your homework, if you don't want to get nasty replies like this from me. Atheism is fine. Laziness is not.
brainouty 3 months ago
@brainouty Another rather more likely hypothesis is that these texts were modified later to match the predictions. Food for thought that does not require making massive leaps of illogic and the ridiculous presumption of an "uncreated" creator to "explain" why we're here...
hznfrst 3 months ago
@brainouty FYI to others: not all atheists are as arrogant and stupid as Sakyua here. Don't judge all atheists by her. Many atheists are good people, and many more don't buy evolution. Evolution doesn't prove or disprove God's Existence, as it is a hypothesis of cause and effect which never can account for INITIAL SOURCE. So be an atheist, or not, as suits your conscience. Just do your homework before you comment on my videos, or I'll chew you out for being a slipshod scholar.
brainouty 4 months ago
@SakyuaMezukai Since you think I am male, this added stupid comment of yours is quite interesting. So you prove you do no homework, and cannot read, either, as my comment to you had nothing to do with gender.
Grow up, learn to think. You won't. You're too full of yourself.
brainouty 4 months ago
@SakyuaMezukai Sigh. Another idiot trying to pretend that he knows science. Like to see you predict the future of the Roman Empire year by year like Paul does in Ephesians 1:3-14, all the way to Odovocar. Oh, that's right: you don't know anything about history, either. Nor Greek, nor satire, nor about anything. You just spout off nonsense thinking yourself smart when you do it.
You don't even understand genetics. Bye. Too many jerks like you on Youtube.
brainouty 4 months ago
How is it evidence that god is real because all christians belive in a god? Of course there aren't people that believe in a god that debate whether or not there is a god, they already believe in a god, that is how they are defined!
K34kD4Sn34k 4 months ago
I've read the Bible. You aren't going to convince me that it isn't the most boring, perverse, violent, and confused thing I've ever read. If it's not precise enough for me to interpret it without someone else's help, it's not precise.
AllOtherNamesTaken2 5 months ago