Christian Tissier Shihan Kihon Dachi

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[kokorosan61]

I agree with you about Saito Sensei : a man didn't follow a genius like O' Sensei if he didn't have great qualities for that.

A little precision, Mokuroku of Iwama Ryu are NOT these of Morihiro Saito Sensei (who gave just a few Mokuroku to about twelve of his uchi-deshi). The real Mokuroku are marked with the personnal hanko of O' Sensei and ONLY Morihiro Saito Sensei was allowed to do that.

[kokorosan61]

It's the same problematic in taijutsu, you never begin with kinonagare (which is normally teached from 3 dan, dixit Saito Sensei himself), you learn with kihon first... Saito Sensei has adapted Japanese teaching to occidentals, because they learn with mind before body reverse of the japanese... ;-] The great O' Sensei was in his own research, Saito Sensei was in teaching and broadcast of Aikido...

[kokorosan61]

So, we find part of the kumijo and jo suburi in the 31 no kata, because Saito Sensei, for explaination, made the way : suburi to kumijo, kumijo to 31 no kata to finally explain O' Sensei kata and not the reverse.

It's the same problematic in taijutsu, you never begin with kinonagare (which is normally teached from 3 dan), you learn with kihon first...

Saito Sensei has adapted Japanese teaching to occidentals because they learn with mind before body reverse of the japanese.

[acorralesgarrido]

@kokorosan61 Train with him first, then say wethever you want......

[pilgrimcarsten]

Thanks again!

Well, I don't have to ask me:

First, this video here is part of a instructional video, where Christian shows first aikiken and then kenjutsu. Including basics as kamae, suburi, e.g.,

Second: After WWII it was decided, to show Aikido openly, to tell the world about the true virtues of the Japanese people and traditions. Even and espacially the martial arts.

I know Christian as a very humble person, who don't need to advertise or boast.

[punchy999]

You wont find much out there on purpose. No need to show something if there is no ego, or need to advertise.

That said, there is a video set available and there are a couple of short yt videos of enbu.

do you ever ask yourself why Tissier or Inaba show kihon in so many videos? What is the purpose? To show those who know less than they how good they are? To show each other? To attract students? are they continuing their learning from anyone senior to them, or have they mastered ksr?

[pilgrimcarsten]

Hm, there is no aikido tai sabaki" in the kenjutsu Tissier shows?

Where can I see ksr? I am not allowed to visit the german shibu because I'm Aikidoka. And there are no videos on the Internet, are they?

Is there no openly part of the curriculum like in tsksr?

We don't stay on the line always and ever. Thats true.

I think, itt was the other way round: Tissier infected his aikido with the kenjutsu he learnt because it was so different form what was shown in Aikido places.

[punchy999]

In aikido you stay on the line? hmmm what about tissiers Iriminage? That is the aikido you practice going around the opponent.

Like I said many times before. Nothing is wrong with aikido, but all who learn from the Inaba/Yamaguchi line cant help but infect their limited ksr trachings with aikido. If you could see what real ksr looks like you would see the vast differences in posture, intent etc because you are trying to integrate the taisabaki of one art into another instead of just learning

[pilgrimcarsten]

sen sen no sen is a important of aikido. It is a popular misunderstanding an aikidoka would wait for the opponent to attack first and than react.

Why do you think it would be two diametrically opposed combat philosophies?

You stay on the line.

If possible you strike first.

You don't avoid the attack. But cut just throughout the opponents sword an body.

That's the aikido we practice.

So from whom did you learn the combat philosophiy of aikido? Especially the one of Tissier?

[jazzyslip]

Indeed pilgrimcarsten, it is Kashima Shin Ryu... I should have re-read my comment before posting it ;)