Refuting Theist Arguments -- First Cause and Design

I apologize for my recent inactivity. I hope to do another few videos in the near future (schedule permitting).

This video is the application of critical thought to two common theistic arguments: first cause and design.

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Music 1: Beginning - The Legend of Demon Castle, From the Castlevania 20th Anniversery Premium Music Collection
Music 2: Sign of Blood Pulse, From the Castlevania 20th Anniversery Premium Music Collection

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Education

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• refute
• allah
• theist
• theism
• atheism
• atheist
• religion
• religious
• god
• deity
• jesus
• reason
• recursive
• infinite
• regression

[CapnOrdinary]

Nice one! 5*, and fav'd.

I'm forced to quote Terry Pratchett:

"Creators aren't gods. (...) It's men that make gods. This explains a lot."

[GreenDragon23]

Thanks. :)

I also like that quote. Ancient man did truly made their gods in their image... and "modern" people still buy into the absurd doctrines... disturbing...

[zbambam5]

Glad to see u post a new video. Liked the Castlevania tracks also.

[GreenDragon23]

Hopefully I get a few others up in the near future.

Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed it. ;)

[XtraordinaryFacts]

to destroy a theist use a simple fact...REALITY

[StAndAl0neCompl3x]

@atheismexposed. Nothing is transcendent from the universe. Such is a meaningless and nonsensical concept. God wouldn't be God if he existed within the universe. Exactly. Then God must not exist. The universe, by definition, is everything that exists. If it is not part of what exists, it must not exist. This is rationalism at its most basic.

[usedbrain]

After doing a little more research I see that I have actually made the argument for "Inherent Omniscience" which is defined as "the ability to know anything that one CHOOSES to know and can be known." I was only aware of "Total Omniscience - actually knowing everything that can be known." I guess I did not have such a unique idea after all.

[usedbrain]

Perhaps the assumption is being made that what is called "GOD" is actually omniscient. Where does "GOD" say that it is omniscient? Perhaps this "GOD" is in complete control of what it CHOSES to know. After all, who are we to insist that the "GOD" is powerless to chose not to know what it wishes. If it is "GOD", it would not be threatened by not knowing some particular "thing".

[Whatinthepasname]

You aren't looking deep enough.

The fact that he rejected the notion and wrote comments on youtube is a result of complex chain of causes, as well.

So a man is "free" to act like a pencil is "free" to write. We respond to stimuli (our genetics, behavioral predisposition, knowledge, upbringing, circumstances) and generate an action based off those things.

[atheismexposed]

"The fact that you guys can't make the simple deduction that, if there is an omniscient being, there cannot be free will"

Why can't there be free will if an omniscient being exists? You are "affirming the consequence," because you are saying free will cannot exist, God knows what I'm gonna choose, therefore, free will does not exist. I thought you didn't deny free will. Free-will compliments an Omniscient being for He is able to create agents with a free-will to choose or reject truth.

[atheismexposed]

Ok, there's two distinct types of free-will. Pragmatic free-will, where you are free to choose what best suits you, say you choose Pepsi over Cola, and there's rational free-will, where you are free to accept or reject rationality on the basis for a presupposition that one holds, such as "God does exist, or God does not exist." The law of non-contradiction says one is true the other false. So if atheism is more rational, then I can either choose to accept or reject, same goes for theism.

[actionscriptkiddy]

I didn't deny free will, far from it. I think it exists, kind of. I deny the existence of gods. They don't make sense.

The fact that you guys can't make the simple deduction that, if there is an omniscient being, there cannot be free will, is obvious proof that you have no fully functional brains. Gee, go figure... who would have thought...

[atheismexposed]

"Fact: if he is omniscient, you cannot have free will."

The mere fact that you reject Theism on the basis of your comments, you've presented a paradox. You deny free will and reject the idea of free-will, which you are "free" to do. God is not restricted to time/cause and effect, so you take that logic and assume it on God, and your choosing of rejection does not oblige God from not creating it, otherwise He is not God. You assume human logic, time, cause and effect on the Creator of it.

[atheismexposed]

You say that the first cause, God, would suffer an infinite regress of design and designers, but that same logic you dismiss it's application on the universe, an infinite causal chain of causes that brought this present moment into being, which sounds more absurd. Theists holds that God is the first cause, thus in no way is itself a cause and effect entity existing within the universe. God is transcendent from the universe, the final arbiter. God wouldn't be God if He exists within the universe.