Uploaded by Torahrevival on Jan 25, 2009
Since making this video, my view of the Bible has changed quite a bit. For more info, see my homepage. Also, check out my other channel: www.youtube.com/AfricansArise
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Shem and Japhethe covered their mother. Lev 18:7 and 8. Ham had seen his mother naked, thus why Noah was outraged when he woke up - thus he was not raped.
rickbgp38 2 years ago
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Why do people take "nakedness" out of context concerning Ham? If Shem and Japhethe walked "backwards' to COVER thieri father it clearly means 'he was naked?" It has nothing to do with a sexual act between woman or man. The lust of the mind is a dangerous thing! And why would anybody believe anything from the talmud where they clearly hate us?
v8diva 2 years ago
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I know. Perhaps it is. Perhaps it isn't.
ThornUvDaath777 3 years ago
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Hey Yosef. Thanks for these comments man. I'm glad you've addressed the issue because you're probably the one person I would wish to offer some thoughts form a rabbinic perspective.
By the way, that was me who made that video! It was qnearly a year ago and if I had made it now, I would done it quite differently - more asking questions rather than making statements about the rabbis. I was in a different place then.
Torahrevival 3 years ago
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...and supposing that Ham really did rape his father, or whatever else, ...and supposing that sub-saharan africans are dark as a result of some change connected to this (which I'm not convinced of)... so what? That's nto a reason to hate African peoples. The Torah AND the Talmud give many more records of the bad deeds of JEWISH / ISRAELITE peoples... and those are their own ancestors. It shouldn't be considered a matter of racism. it should be considered [errant?] opinion about the past.
omedyashar 3 years ago
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But all this aside, the Talmud does not present these opinions as binding beliefs. It does not require that a person side with any one of these opinions.
omedyashar 3 years ago
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the guy's ignorance of hebrew prevents him from knowing that the word "nakedness" in Hebrew is also at times used as an idiom for intercourse. Upon realizing this, it should then be more understanding as to why one might have the opinion that Ham raped his father while he was drunk. The term "saw" could mean perceived or knew, as is the case elsewhere in the Bible. And we know that "to know" in Hebrew is also sometimes used as an idiom for relations in Hebrew.
omedyashar 3 years ago
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But more importantly, regarding the criticism on the Talmud in the link you provided... I agree with the guy that disagreement with an opinion in the Talmud doesn't necessarily imply anti-semitism.... however, the guy's comments do contain some lack of information.
He mentions that the Biblical text doesn't say that Ham had relations with his dad, or whatever else. 1st -- that was just one opinion mentioned in the Talmud. Other opinions are given... but on top of that....
omedyashar 3 years ago
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In the link you provided about the "Curse of Ham" -- first of all... as you've probably noticed... the curse was in reference to K'na'an, one of Ham's sons. Why would Ham's son be cursed for his father's bad actions? I like the opinion that there was no "power" in the words of Noah other than mere perception / intuition due to how he expected Ham's sons would be likely influenced by their father's assumed immoral nature.
omedyashar 3 years ago
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Good video.
omedyashar 3 years ago
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You seem to be on a journey, you have moved away fropm Paul, "Jesus" and it is now apparent the New Testament.
Is the journey leading to HaShem and His 613 commandments or Noahide Commandments or both?
I wish you well and may you find theTRUTH and be FREE.
12CIFOM 3 years ago
Thanks man
Torahrevival 3 years ago