SAA Inertial Propulsion Marble Test

This time I put the SAA on a level bed of marbles, held it down until the hammers spun to maximum speed and let it go. Once again, the machine showed a definite forward motion in the expected direction (you will have to watch the last few seconds to see it in action). This is an upgrade to the design you saw in the scale test as it is 'open-faced' and allows for easier repair. Max filmed this test as well.

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[MyITRcom]

I think what we see here is the device spinning the marbles under it and propelling it forward, nothing strange or anomalous.

[clevelandsavage]

The point is that the marbles are minimizing friction, only the pendulum test is foolproof, but try looking for linear movement while using one of the variable radius slip-stick "plank climbers" you will get no results on marbles.

[sovereign777]

It would be interesting to see this model on coasters over a larger area. Nicely made attempt.

[clevelandsavage]

I have tried to do such in the past with hockey air tables but the possibility of a 'skirt-tipping' air thrust effect ruins such a test. The marbles get all over the place after a few seconds of testing so marble tests are usually pretty short, I just try to pay attention to what happens after three rotations of the hammers to get an idea as to the nature of movement.

[flowerbower]

If friction were totally eliminated, then movement would be impossible. Directed motion on an 'apparently' frictionless surface has confused many inventors.

[clevelandsavage]

Circular argument, here you have already introduced the presuppposition that the device doesn't work.

[repatte]

The motion appears to be angular still rather than linear. I would think that in space it would move in a large but circular path. The device itself would be rotating around a center. This however can still be useful if you could change the size of the outer rotation.

[msqtube]

float it on water, then see if it moves

[MrChachi4607]

Wow. This is absolutely, and uttterly amazing. Definitely the 8th wonder of the world. Big scientific breakthrough we have here. Huge fan. Huge fan. I love your work. Truly inspiring.

[Innomen]

As I've said to others, model this in Phun and share please. If it's just exploitation of existing laws of motion then it should work in a simulation.

Typically proponents of IP don't claim a new physical law, just an error in interpreting old ones.

[oystla]

A definite proof of any such device would be to hang it in the air and prove that it propels forward.

[flowerbower]

So use 4 supporting wires (in a rectangular array) instead of 2. These difficulties only go to show that experimentation is more difficult than one expects.

You should hope that there is no apparent force. If there were, you could not assume (it would be contrary to logic) that it was some new phenomenon and you would have to track down every other possible cause. That is when the real work starts.

[dingusmungus]

Ok then... Use a form of propulsion we both know works and apply it in that exact experiment. Lets say a model airplane engine or jet turbine. I promise you will end up with a spinning tangled mess and not a revolving engine. The difference between our methods is practicality in the real world.

If indeed the net force produced by this device is zero then there is no reason why it should in any way oppose the force of gravity to lift itself and the pendulum.