Romanian Orthodox Byzantine Chant - The Stichera of Pascha

wings of piety

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[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru THE ONLY WAY THE BIBLE WE GAVE YOU CAN BE THE INFALLIBLE WORD OF GOD, SINCE WE ASSEMBLED IT IN THE FOURTH CENTURY, IS IF WE ARE THE INFALLIBLE CHURCH OF CHRIST GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, for the fallible cannot produce infallible books LOGICALLY. THE SCRIPTURES WERE LITURGICAL FROM "our rituals." THUS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL AND TO BE CONSISTENT IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THE BIBLE, YOU WOULD LOGICALLY HAVE TO ADMIT THAT ONLY CHRIST's CHURCH AND NOT YOUR SECT COULD PRODUCE IT. US!!!

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru Thus if you are going to talk about our INFALLIBLE SCRIPTURE which we established ONLY INFALLIBLY AND IN THE HOLY SPIRIT and establish as the CHURCH WHICH GAVE YOU HERETICS THE BIBLE, it follows, logically, that if you truly hold to that standard, you would RESPECT the HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS CHURCH AND THE BIBLE AND ENTER THAT CHURCH TO TRULY WORSHIP GOD, for the Bible does not exist independent of CHRIST OR HIS CHURCH and did not even in Old Testament times.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru Since you are ignorant of Scripture which clearly establishes WE ALONE ARE THE CHURCH and you are part of a CULT OF DEMONIAC MEN and blasphemers, yet you maintain the BIBLE WE ASSEMBLED IN THE FOURTH CENTURY IS INFALLIBLE by mere logic YOU ADMIT WE ARE NOT ONLY INFALLIBLE AND DIVINELY INSPIRED IN ESTABLISHING THE SCRIPTURE BUT THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT ABIDES WITH US AS THE CHURCH. LASTLY, that SCRIPTURE IS A PRODUCT OF "RITUAL" FOR SINCE MOSES IT IS PART OF OUR LITURGICAL WORSHIP

[jasonbently2002]

YOU HOLD OUR BIBLE INFALLIBLE, THAT MEANS OUR CHURCH MUST BE INFALLIBLE TO HAVE ASSEMBLED IT AND THAT WE UPHOLD THE SCRIPTURAL CRITERION OF TRUTH which CLEARLY ESTABLISHES BY YOUR REASONING THAT WE ALONE ARE THE TRUE CHURCH. AND NOT AN HERETICAL DENOMINATION OF MEN: that's you and your demoniac sect. JESUS CHRIST FOUNDED OUR CHURCH AND WE DATE BACK TO THE HOLY APOSTLES AND THEY GAVE US OUR "rituals" FOR THEY ARE DIVINELY ORDAINED.

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru You need to READ THE BOOK OF ACTS, THE EPISTLES AND THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT regarding "rituals" WHICH JESUS CHRIST AND THE HOLY APOSTLES IN THE HOLY SPIRIT HAVE PASSED DOWN TO US.IT IS YOU, DEMONIAC, WHO NEEDS TO READ THE BIBLE WHICH WE ASSEMBLED IN THE FOURTH CENTURY.WE ASSEMBLED THE CANON OF SCRIPTURE YOU BELIEVE TO BE INFALLIBLE IN THE FOURTH CENTURY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.SINCE ONLY THE INFALLIBLE AND DIVINELY INSPIRED CAN DO SO, YOU ADMIT WE ARE THE CHURCH.

[DanieruShidebuteru]

@jasonbently2002

I kindly implore you to read the Bible and be a true follower of Jesus, not (only) a follower of a certain church denomination. Rituals don't save you (though I like them and that is what always attract me to Orthodoxy, but I know it's just rituals), not even membership of a "correct" church, Jesus does. And he'll only save you if you put your in faith in Him. That is the only thing He asks and the only thing you'll need. Bye now.

[jasonbently2002]

THE FACT YOU CALL THE SCRIPTURE WE DECLARED CANONICAL IN THE FOURTH CENTURY AND ASSEMBLED IN THE HOLY TRADITION "INFALLIBLE" LOGICALLY ADMITS THAT OUR CHURCH IS INFALLIBLE,THAT WE KNOW SCRIPTURE AND THAT YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CHURCH USING OUR SCRIPTURES IN A MANNER YOU MAKE YOU UP OUTSIDE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.LASTLY, IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE CHURCH FOUNDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT you aren't part of the CHURCH but a sect of fallible men abusing OUR infallible Scriptures which you don't know.

[jasonbently2002]

THE ORTHODOX CHURCH IS NOT A FACTION BUT THE ORTHODOX CATHOLIC FOUNDED BY CHRIST ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST, cf. CHRIST HIMSELF SAYS IN SCRIPTURE, I WILL FOUND MY CHURCH AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT. HE doesn't say "churches." Since that CHURCH IS ONE TO THIS DAY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT guided by HIM, how can your heretical sect of men even compare to the TRUTH GIVEN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN HIS CHURCH?! HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE EQUAL TO THE CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY THE HOLY TRINITY?!

[jasonbently2002]

@DanieruShidebuteru You mean like the FIRST CHRISTIANS WHO PERFECTED THE RITUAL FOUND IN SCRIPTURE IN THE FIRST FIVE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE?! In other words, you don't belong to CHRIST's CHURCH and are a member of a false religion?!

[DanieruShidebuteru]

Regarding the theatrics; hey, I'm not the one who goes to a church where the clergy dress up in weird robes, giving out incense, chanting in dead languages, in a building decorated in all kinds of sculpture and paintings!! You call Protestants theatrical? You could never be further from the truth!! XD

Just kidding, my friend. I do respect Orthodoxy and my Orthodox brothers and sisters. And I do appreciate your ceremonies. Our differences are not as wide and dividing as you make it out to be.