My only arguement is that Messi isn't fullproof. Give him more respect/space on the ball and allow him to commit to his side FIRST. Defenders have stopped rushing at CR for this same reason. Because its much harder to commit a defender and thus beat him if he's determined not to commit until you do. The whole point of "tricks" is to commit the defender or at least make them hesitate. Tricks aren't showboating exclusively. Thats all I'm trying to say really.
Funneling players into less dangerous spaces. It makes perfect sense and every good team does it in one way or another. If you can force the opposition to play the ball into smaller compact areas you can effectively stifle "open" attacking play and use numbers to your advantage. The job of the defense is to compact play whereas offenses try to keep it open with more room to work with. Its much easier to invite passes into less dangerous areas. Dribbling can ruin this as it opens things up more.
You're missing the point. Those "lightning quick feet" are being channeled into more defenders and away from the goal directly. I'm not talking about stopping him altogether neccesarily. Making the other team play predictably and thus be more defendable is the goal. You can do this with a single dribbling player but that often forces you to deveote more players wherein lies and the a great advantage any dribbler gives his team. Open players. And one or two hard shots does not a striker make.
Those 2-3 defenders are the victim of his lighting quick feet. You know whats coming but its near impossible to stop without fouling.
Messi has a hard shot indeed. Watch his goal vs Osasuna last season and his goal vs brazil in the under 17 world cup. Not quite on the same level as Teemu Tawio or Mark Van Bommel but hard indeed :)
Like i said, in other interviews with Messi's teammates at barca they have all said messi is more than caperble at doing step overs and much more but he dosen't need them. You don't see Robinho jinking past 4-5 defenders at a time because it's exceptional hard to do at the top level. Ask yourself, why bother doing tricks which is to fool just one defender on a one on one than just dribbling past them?
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zomb1e89 2 months ago
ok now i understand.
What you said is true but it's much easier said than done when taking on Messi.
nocternalD 2 years ago
My only arguement is that Messi isn't fullproof. Give him more respect/space on the ball and allow him to commit to his side FIRST. Defenders have stopped rushing at CR for this same reason. Because its much harder to commit a defender and thus beat him if he's determined not to commit until you do. The whole point of "tricks" is to commit the defender or at least make them hesitate. Tricks aren't showboating exclusively. Thats all I'm trying to say really.
hcdangerfield211 2 years ago
Funneling players into less dangerous spaces. It makes perfect sense and every good team does it in one way or another. If you can force the opposition to play the ball into smaller compact areas you can effectively stifle "open" attacking play and use numbers to your advantage. The job of the defense is to compact play whereas offenses try to keep it open with more room to work with. Its much easier to invite passes into less dangerous areas. Dribbling can ruin this as it opens things up more.
hcdangerfield211 2 years ago
you didn't make much sense lol. anyway were going to keep going on and on so lets agree to disagree.
nocternalD 2 years ago
Lost me like I didn't make sense or I'm not following what you said.
hcdangerfield211 2 years ago
this has been a good debate but i have lost you at the end there sorry lol
nocternalD 2 years ago
You're missing the point. Those "lightning quick feet" are being channeled into more defenders and away from the goal directly. I'm not talking about stopping him altogether neccesarily. Making the other team play predictably and thus be more defendable is the goal. You can do this with a single dribbling player but that often forces you to deveote more players wherein lies and the a great advantage any dribbler gives his team. Open players. And one or two hard shots does not a striker make.
hcdangerfield211 2 years ago
Those 2-3 defenders are the victim of his lighting quick feet. You know whats coming but its near impossible to stop without fouling.
Messi has a hard shot indeed. Watch his goal vs Osasuna last season and his goal vs brazil in the under 17 world cup. Not quite on the same level as Teemu Tawio or Mark Van Bommel but hard indeed :)
nocternalD 2 years ago
Like i said, in other interviews with Messi's teammates at barca they have all said messi is more than caperble at doing step overs and much more but he dosen't need them. You don't see Robinho jinking past 4-5 defenders at a time because it's exceptional hard to do at the top level. Ask yourself, why bother doing tricks which is to fool just one defender on a one on one than just dribbling past them?
nocternalD 2 years ago