Linguist and Linguistics that Lingo Steve Kaufman denies

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Education

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• foreign languages
• polyglot

[christopheclugston]

@VIRTLANTIS So you are willing to have surgery from a non credentialed person?

[christopheclugston]

@VIRTLANTIS I am talking about application: there will be no simulated surgery nor village elicitation in the realm of Field Linguistics. You keep wanting to to take a tangent to the core discussion

[VIRTLANTIS]

@christopheclugston just to be clear, i am not arguing that credentials are not desirable...i am simply suggesting that a) the current manner in which credentials are (able to be) acquired should be thoroughly questioned, b) other avenues for their acquisition should be made possible, c) the very idea that only "the certified" ones (an expert class) should be seen as viable actors in their given fields should be further reflected on, & d) the implications of future collaborative problem solving

[VIRTLANTIS]

@christopheclugston thx again for the conversation...regarding your point ab "under the tutelage of others in direct contact"...seems the amt of direct contact needed (depending on the subject/task) will decrease over time..w the advent of new technologies and methodologies, e.g. simulation, etc...seems the univ lecture experience is antiquated and highly inefficient...and profs would likely be better off producing lecture videos and engaging themselves more socially, both online and off...

[VIRTLANTIS]

@christopheclugston thx for the reply - c ur point..seems tho u r mostly focusing on the medical field, whereas i am not..but to speak of that particular field, i'd say it too is in need of critical questioning, investigation and challenge..especially when it operates within a system which itself is fundamentally flawed..which operates on a profit motive, and arguably perpetuates illness vs aims to cure..my own experience w doctors has been very disappointing..and they have all been certified...

[christopheclugston]

@VIRTLANTIS Are you willing to have surgery from a non credentialed doctor? Who has no sound grounding in physiology,etc.? You are arguing for a reduction in standards. The same thing for a pilot--do you want to get on a plane with someone who has learned on his own through cyber? Reality is that hard credentials have to be done under the tutelage of others in direct contact.

[VIRTLANTIS]

@christopheclugston thx for the reply...for the sake of clarity, my own comments do not pertain to steve personally...as i do not know him, only of him...as to credentials (certificates, degrees, etc.) new ways of determining one's knowledge of any given subject are already being considered - w/ more ideas likely to come...seems we need to recognize how fundamentally flawed much of "recognized edu" is...primary thru tertiary...and aim to evolve things...not simply accept a flawed status quo...

[christopheclugston]

@VIRTLANTIS Credentials are not coming up everywhere, however. Again, people can call themselves healers all they want, but they are not neuro surgeons, heart surgeons or ob/gyns now are they? Again, formal RECOGNIZED education with standards, diplomas, and post graduate work are what mark Medical Doctors as well as Linguists. And BTW no one ever stopped Steve Kaufman from becoming a real linguist other than Steve Kaufman's own limitations.

[VIRTLANTIS]

seems difficult..especially considering how the concept & definition of "education" is being questioned & challenged these days..due to exponentially increasing availability of learning technologies, social networks, etc..to argue that a linguist would necessarily have to possess a university degree or some official "credential"..seems regardless the subject, this notion already is & will continue to be challenged in the years to come..learning is becoming more pervasive..the "univ"is everywhere

[christopheclugston]

@marckami Explicate that.