MSNBC Host Makes Rob Bell Squirm: "You're Amending The Gospel So That It's Palatable!"

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[quiringb]

I don't think Rob was at worried or "squirmish". Poor title choice for this video.

[TheLifestreamdotorg]

No one can prove anything Rob Bell and his followers believe. They no longer follow the entire Scripture, they are no different than any other religion that trys to limit God.

[baldurus1]

@Sudhish86 Again, why call him good if I a mere mortal am morally superior?

Am I greater than god?

[Sudhish86]

@baldurus1, who's rules is the master under? who created the rules from which responsibility exists?

God makes the rules, since besides Him there is nothing. "good" cannot be something above God since, hypothetically, there would still be nothing to exist for this law to exist for.

This is why it is so obvious that the way we first sense "good" is not actually how it is.

With authority comes responsibility because God desires for it to be so. rules for our world don't apply elsewhere.

[migol1984]

@seanstrnad so in hopes of not deviating from the original discussion altogether, i think i've done a fair job showing you what parts of the bible rob bell has apparently missed out on to answer the question if God cares and is all powerful then why is there still evil. the bible teaches those things. you've just gotta think a bit harder. most skeptics simply don't bother. in all fairness, even if the bible is complete myth it is still compelling and i feel we could all learn from it.

[migol1984]

@seanstrnad but if your argument is that there is no free will, and/or all suffering in the world is not always caused by humans i.e. tsunamis then that's entirely different. i can't prove to you if there is free will or not. however, if you argue that there is no free will then you'd be pressed to find that physicist michio kaku would disagree with you. my objective is understanding the bible as best as i can.

[migol1984]

@seanstrnad if evolution is true, still even then all the suffering in the world is to be blamed on human free will. think my friend. the bible poses an analogy (i.e. riddle). it doesn't have to be taken literally. the analogy/riddle explains we're trying to find our way to complete awareness. the genesis story was written thousands of years ago to a very nomadic and superstitious people. it had to be dummed down to a degree they'd understand a very philosophical and spiritual lesson.

[seanstrnad]

@migol1984 UM, how did you answer the question? If evolution is true, then the answer to the question of good and evil is quite different than that which appears in the Genesis myth (which absurdly blames all suffering in the world on human free will).

[baldurus1]

@Sudhish86 Then the master is an evil dictator not worthy of worship.

With authority comes responsibility. What kind of an idiot leaves a loaded gun with a 2 year old and then punishes the 2 year old and the children and grand children of that 2 year old for pulling the trigger and killing someone? Only a monster. Why would you worship a monster? And why would an omnipotent being require worship? I don't require anyone to worship me, how can i be morally superior to god?

[Sudhish86]

@baldurus1, that's not a right analogy. better one:

if we had an inheritance that we rejected, we would perish. If the person who gave it to you knew this would happen, created another account that we could access, had his friend watch over it until we became desperate enough to do whatever the friend was told, we, by the wisdom and mercy of the master, and the obedience of the friend, could access that account.

the master is sacrificing wealth you do not deserve.

[Sudhish86]

@baldurus1, the sacrifice is relative to our will's welfare. The whole purpose of life is for God's pleasure. so, everything ultimately falls under that category. But, since He created other things with wills, and these wills turned from God, and aren't inherently worthy of God cuz of the turning, our souls are not worthy of God unless this world is overcome. we needed God to die in this world to make the things of it nothing. it's still for Himself, but we need it since we exist...

[ManOfTheInBetween]

@PooleSilly You're right, that WAS incredibly arrogant! This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing if I've ever seen on!