*A most Hellfire Exhaust on a Class 104*

*A most Hellfire Exhaust on a Class 104*

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[simonpilk]

Another great memory rekindled. Superb stuff!

[mrspivvy]

I love that noise!

[HORNEBEEDUBLO]

@hamsterbus Perkins did end up owning Gardner. I haven't been on 165s or 166s, but I have been on Perkins powered 158s and 142084 when it was experimentally fitted with Perkins engines.

[hamsterbus]

@HORNEBEEDUBLO I think perkins ended up with rolls royce diesel along with gardner too. I have had one or 2 bashes on a 165 but not the 166.

[HORNEBEEDUBLO]

@hamsterbus I've never been on a 127 either and looking at the videos of them on here I don't think that I'd would want to! The power cars were withdrawn early as the Rolls Royce 8 cylinder engines and hydraulic transmissions were unreliable and prone to fires. The majority of 158s and 159s have Cummins NTA855R engines as on the 150s but are 350hp. A minority of 158s have Perkins Phaser engines as on the 165 & 166s which is based on the Rolls Royce Eagle engine.

[hamsterbus]

@HORNEBEEDUBLO Never been on a 127 yet but they sound similar to later 15x examples but not the 158 or 159 though as these had different engines to class 150, 153, 155 and 156 units. Some of the earlier units don't seem to whine as much now to when they were newer is the 80's and early 90's if only the equipment was cheaper back then!

[hamsterbus]

@HORNEBEEDUBLO There were some ex-hong kong tri axle eamples that use to be at quenen's rd and usually worklked the 17 service. i caught one later from norwich to great yarmouth as they were later transferred to eastern counties. Some K reg cunnins ubits were from bristol and london (capital citybus) andsome G reg from west yorkshire. Some later volvo powered olypiams can from Go-ahead London M reg and some possibly some new to cambus with P plates with voith geraboxes.

[HORNEBEEDUBLO]

@hamsterbus The Olympians were similar to the ex GM ones but the K reg ones were 33ft long. They were replaced by new wright bodied Volvos.

[HORNEBEEDUBLO]

@hamsterbus A couple of TL11 powered Olympians did survive for a short time after the last Atlantean withdrawals in 2002, they were the last Leyland engined buses in the First Manchester fleet. Some of the last F reg ex GM Olympians (Gardner/ZF) lasted longer in other First and Stagecoach fleets. First Manchester also operated ex West Yorks Metrobuses in Manchester and had some Cummins L10 powered Norther Counties G and K reg Olympians operating in Wigan around 2005. Not sure of their origins.

[HORNEBEEDUBLO]

@hamsterbus I've been watching a couple of videos on here of preserved BR Class 127s. They don't look that pleasant. The 150s seem to be a 1980s version of these! Don't you think?