Discovering Religion: Ep 10 - Neanderthal

The tenth installment of my original series, "Discovering Religion". In this episode I explore concept of the caveman and the inconsistencies that arise between the scientific and theological timeline of anthropological human development, from hunter-gathers of the Stone Age to farmers and sheppards of the Bronze Age.

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MUSIC CITED:

Llewellyn - Reiki (1999) - 04 - Inner Voice

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PLAYLIST:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=70E757541E8576D7

TRANSCRIPT:
http://discoveringreligion.net/?p=198

WEBSITE:
http://www.discoveringreligion.net

FACEBOOK:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Discovering-Religion/143122652390020?ref=ts




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Category:

Education

Tags:

• Discovering
• Religion
• Cavemen
• Caveman
• Neanderthal
• mtDNA
• mitochondrial
• DNA
• genome
• human
• species
• svante
• paabo
• Cain
• and
• Able
• Anthropology

[Pagweb]

At the end of the clip. You're not using the correct usage of the phrase "Begs the question".

[DiscoveringReligion]

@Pagweb

Yeah, I'm not using it in the sense of a logical fallacy. I just mean it raises the question.

[karstd]

6:20 you say that their noses were larger with more capillaries and thicker mucus to warm the air as it comes in... This is false. Their noses were larger so the air would be cooled to lower their body temperature so that they did not sweat during physically demanding activities, which would cause them to freeze once their body temperature lowered after the activity level lowered, blood flow decreased, and body temperature along with it. Your argument still works though.. Just clearing that up.

[DiscoveringReligion]

@karstd

Im not sure if your statement is correct. From what I've learned in anatomy and physiology our lungs cannot handle freezing cold air, and if the air temperature is not properly adjusted before interacting with our alveoli it causes lung strain and perhaps even damage. Furthermore, the air temperature during the Ice Age was already below freezing, so it wouldnt be physically possible for neanderthal's nose to have made the air even colder.

[karstd]

@DiscoveringReligion The old belief was that it warmed the air. Newer theories suggest large surface area and increased blood flow to the nose would have cooled the blood running through the area and lowered body temperature during high activity like the ears of a jack rabbit. The mucus lining kept them protected from the cold when they weren't chasing prey.

[DiscoveringReligion]

@karstd

Thats very interesting, I have not heard that explanation before, but it makes sense. Thanks a lot for the comment. :)

[DiscoveringReligion]

@gargamel6699

It is not important if Cane and Able or some other group of people were the very first naturally born human beings. The point is that the Bible claims the generation living directly after the Creation event, when Adam and Eve were still alive, had advanced technology such as farming and animal domestication, which actually belonged to the Bronze Age. Therefore, the Bible claims the Stone Age hunter-gatherer societies, such as Neanderthal and Cro-magnon, never actually existed.

[Fugettaboutit]

@Benitotalon Who could converse with reptiles, apparently. ;-)

[bigglyguy]

@websnarf Yes but the point of that paper is that 2 distinct species interbred, rather than either being a descendant of the other or merely a different race. We show about 4% neanderthal DNA in Whites and Asians, though not Blacks. It would be like a bonobo and chimp mating today.

[websnarf]

You should probably put some updated notes or something in this video -- we, in fact, *did* interbreed with Neanderthal, as a paper that came out later in 2010 by the same group you referred to showed.

[8698gil]

@Moontanman I used to drive my parents crazy asking them questions like that, who did Cain marry, how did they get all the animals on the ark, and so on. I never did get a good answer, which is why when I went to school and learned about evolution, it made perfect sense to me.

[8698gil]

@DiscoveringReligion I've noticed that myself. Who taught Cain and Abel how to hunt and farm, herd sheep, and build homes? Doesn't make sense, does it? Did god give them lessons?

[Benitotalon]

@DiscoveringReligion

One interpretation could be that Cain and Abel were not literal people, but species Homo Sapiens and Neandertals. Cain being the crop bearing Sapiens and Abel being the mainly carnivorous Neandertal. And in the end, the competition with Sapiens may very well have been the end of Neandertal, or 'Cain' 'murdering' 'Abel.

Far stretch, but one way to look at that particular story. And also 'Adam and Eve' could just be meant as a common ancestor to both hominids.