@CartesianTheist: Yes, I'm Belgian, meaning English isn't my native language. Although you have clear issues with it as well. I've now asked you at least a dozen times to present me with any facts, evidence or laws of nature which prove me wrong and you have yet to give even a single one.
I'll go offline soon, so if you don't present anything to prove me wrong by tomorrow, I'll block you for wasting my time with nonsense and lies.
@CartesianTheist: no, you've quote-mined, as several of them were incorrect and out-dated. Clearly you still don't know what you're talking about. Basic logic: a black hole is an object. A black hole is also a singularity. This means a black hole is both an object AND a singularity. Ergo, a singularity is an object. Still waiting for any facts/evidence or laws of nature to prove me wrong.
I've never come across any facts/evidence/laws of nature from you which prove me wrong, so I must be right.
@CartesianTheist: I never made any claims, nor presented anything that might even suggest the universe is contracting. Clearly, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
So, I'm still waiting for your very first piece of evidence/fact/law of nature to prove me wrong on anything I said.
All I've received from you are quote-mines and lies, but absolutely no facts at all.
@CartesianTheist: I'll give you some names of scientists who agree with me, AFTER you've given facts, evidence and/or laws of nature to prove me wrong on my starting message. Surely, if you and those scientists are right, you have a gigantic amount of evidence to support your case, don't you? All I want is the science, NOT the scientists.
Go on, just a single piece of evidence, a single fact or a single law of nature to support your case. It's all I ask to get things started. Where is it?
@CartesianTheist: Every cosmologist who accepts the CURRENT BBT, accepts what I present you. Heck, even those who accept previous versions of the BBT accept what I say. The problem is that you don't understand what I'm saying and are spouting lies in an attempt to...well, I don't know what you're trying to do, but I doubt it's working.
So, child, present me with the FACTS, EVIDENCE, LAWS AND MOST OF ALL: NOT A SINGLE QUOTE-MINE FROM ANY SCIENTIST to prove I'm wrong. I bet you can't do it.
@CartesianTheist: I've read everything. You just don't know what you're talking about. Also, I'm not adding anything, I'm explaining what it implies. Something which exists, but cannot be created nor destroyed, logically has been existing for all eternity and must therefore be infinite, otherwise it COULD be created OR wouldn't exist. It's very basic logic, dude. If you can't get that straight, than you're certainly not qualified to talk about science.
@CartesianTheist: find even a single comment of mine where I actually say the laws of thermodynamics refute the BBT. Note: make sure I'm not actually saying you're a fucking retard and you don't know what the BBT actually is, because you're backwards at least 50 years.
As for the cosmologists: it's not about the "right cosmologists", it's about cosmologists who are right, fucktard. Way to lower your IQ even further, Einstein.
Law of Conservation of Energy: "It states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time. A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed from one state to another." = eternal
Singularity: "A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted." = infinite.
@CartesianTheist: just in case you forget:
1) FACTS
2) EVIDENCE
3) LAWS OF NATURE
4) NO QUOTE-MINING
Try doing what I ask and this debate will go a lot faster.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: Yes, I'm Belgian, meaning English isn't my native language. Although you have clear issues with it as well. I've now asked you at least a dozen times to present me with any facts, evidence or laws of nature which prove me wrong and you have yet to give even a single one.
I'll go offline soon, so if you don't present anything to prove me wrong by tomorrow, I'll block you for wasting my time with nonsense and lies.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: no, you've quote-mined, as several of them were incorrect and out-dated. Clearly you still don't know what you're talking about. Basic logic: a black hole is an object. A black hole is also a singularity. This means a black hole is both an object AND a singularity. Ergo, a singularity is an object. Still waiting for any facts/evidence or laws of nature to prove me wrong.
I've never come across any facts/evidence/laws of nature from you which prove me wrong, so I must be right.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: I never made any claims, nor presented anything that might even suggest the universe is contracting. Clearly, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
So, I'm still waiting for your very first piece of evidence/fact/law of nature to prove me wrong on anything I said.
All I've received from you are quote-mines and lies, but absolutely no facts at all.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: go on, loser, I DARE YOU TO PRESENT EVEN A SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE/FACT/LAW OF NATURE TO PROVE ME WRONG! DO IT, YOU COWARD!
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: I'll give you some names of scientists who agree with me, AFTER you've given facts, evidence and/or laws of nature to prove me wrong on my starting message. Surely, if you and those scientists are right, you have a gigantic amount of evidence to support your case, don't you? All I want is the science, NOT the scientists.
Go on, just a single piece of evidence, a single fact or a single law of nature to support your case. It's all I ask to get things started. Where is it?
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: Every cosmologist who accepts the CURRENT BBT, accepts what I present you. Heck, even those who accept previous versions of the BBT accept what I say. The problem is that you don't understand what I'm saying and are spouting lies in an attempt to...well, I don't know what you're trying to do, but I doubt it's working.
So, child, present me with the FACTS, EVIDENCE, LAWS AND MOST OF ALL: NOT A SINGLE QUOTE-MINE FROM ANY SCIENTIST to prove I'm wrong. I bet you can't do it.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: I've read everything. You just don't know what you're talking about. Also, I'm not adding anything, I'm explaining what it implies. Something which exists, but cannot be created nor destroyed, logically has been existing for all eternity and must therefore be infinite, otherwise it COULD be created OR wouldn't exist. It's very basic logic, dude. If you can't get that straight, than you're certainly not qualified to talk about science.
You've quote-mined mistakes of scientists.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist: find even a single comment of mine where I actually say the laws of thermodynamics refute the BBT. Note: make sure I'm not actually saying you're a fucking retard and you don't know what the BBT actually is, because you're backwards at least 50 years.
As for the cosmologists: it's not about the "right cosmologists", it's about cosmologists who are right, fucktard. Way to lower your IQ even further, Einstein.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago
@CartesianTheist:
Law of Conservation of Energy: "It states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time. A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed from one state to another." = eternal
Singularity: "A point in space-time at which gravitational forces cause matter to have infinite density and infinitesimal volume, and space and time to become infinitely distorted." = infinite.
Fucking retard.
PJDesseyn 1 year ago