The Liberty Roundtable #1: Education and the State

A rousing roundtable with Wes Bertrand http://www.completeliberty.com, Brett Veinotte http://www.schoolsucks.podomatic.com and Stefan Molyneux of Freedomain Radio http://www.freedomainradio.com

Category:

Education

Tags:

• education
• parenting
• childraising
• statism
• minarchism
• school
• sucks
• libertarian

[dingerness]

Stef, what would you tell your daughter if she asked you what YOU thought about God, after you had her reason for herself? Does this undermine your effort to not teach her conclusions?

[stefbot]

I would teach her honesty by telling the truth...

[atrickpay11]

Is this new? I think I might have listened to a podcast of this. Or am I thinking of the interview Stef did with Brett Veinotte?

[stefbot]

this is new...

[escapethecollapse]

Great stuff! I'm wondering what Stef keeps looking at to his right?

[stefbot]

the chat room, for feedback...

[Visfen]

I was pretty much raised on a no reward, no punishment basis. At least as far as I can understand.

My mother used to tell me "I'm leaving the playground now, so if you want to come with you have to go now", and I never went. There simply was no point in trying to punish or reward my behavior because I did what I wanted to anyway.

I go to school now and I don't want to learn what I "should", I learn what I want. Even though I'm studying engineering I read learn economics and philosophy.

[buff001]

Stef, you should do standup comedy... hahaha...

[PurpleHoneyBear]

Wait, is this the same Wes Bertrand from Healthy Mind - Fit Body? IF so, that is awesome!

[TinoTaliTintti]

stef made a funny face at 0:33:50

[MrChrisBlizzard]

Very interesting discussion - just subscribed to Wes and Brett's podcasts. Cheers guys!

[libertyandjustice]

I completely agree with the analysis around 34:00 by Brett and then Stef - After studying sociology and criticizing structures and using scientific thinking I reasoned that they can't teach this in school because it would criticize and "dissolve" their authority

[libertyandjustice]

I think that adolescents at least teenagers ask why school has to be structured like it is and why do I have to learn what someone else wants me too. I think this is one reason we see teenagers searching for answers online to questions not covered in school. When I was in highschool I certainly questioned the structure of school and imagined that it was just military training for a desk job -- turns out it was.

[SchoolSucksPodcast1]

@rmcc0002 he is using oovoo, works pretty well. i think it costs money though for more than 3 people but 2 or 3 person chat is free.

[DrBakshandeh]

Listen to the Doctor school sucks I've been through it.

[rmcc0002]

stef,

What software do you use to get the tri-video screen? Very cool.