Sam Harris: lecture on religious faith - Part 03

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Part 3 of Sam Harris' lecture to the New York Society of Ethical Culture

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  • the bible is almost as violent as the qur'an. it has a lot of command to kill the "infidel"... it just isn't as redundantly redundant about it as is the qur'an

  • Wow. You really aren't kidding. I'm an atheist and I find myself struggling every day to suppress my genocidal impulses.

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  • @THEREIZNOGOD I'm surprised no one replied to that with scorn after not getting the "redundantly redundant" part.

  • @papelhojas Just can't beat that British accent!

  • @MrEdLoop i agree, yet, i still find hitchens to be a more compelling speaker.

  • This guy's sentence structure and pace is... fantastic. Just fantastic. I'm a debater, and as such I often listen to, talented and untalented, people talk. And wow is this guy well-spoken.

  • im not exactly sure what the quote is but buddha said something like, do not do anything that i say if you in your own mind does not feel is right. something of that effect. which basically means, you sould never do something that even a god says is good, if you feel in your mind is not right. i would never kill my neighbour if i saw him working on a sunday, even if the bible says i should.

  • The Kamikaze pilots were not informed by Zen but they were taught some things by Zen Buddhists.

  • @TomFynn Yeah, a (vegan) beer would be good, all the best to u, cheers mate:-)

  • @veganath

    Well, if you want to make the world better, it might be a good start to go easy on the agenda light. :)

    Maybe we can discuss this over a beer one day.

    Beer makes the world better- well makes the world seem nicer.

    Remember: beer is vegan.

    Cheers.

  • @TomFynn Sorry Tom, listen most of my friends aren't veg, & they are quick to remind me I can be a pain, especially when my agenda light goes on. But you are right it is difficult to follow, & like u I don't like taking orders! The difficulty comes when looking out into the world wondering what is the best thing to do to create a world that I am happy to give over to my kids, each person does their own improvement, good luck with that..cheers

  • @veganath

    "u implied moral superiority over others "

    You wanted to know what I counted as evil actions and I gave a list.

    Don't go putting fucking words in my mou- comments.

    And much as I admire Sam Harris, surpassing the morality of the bible cannot be counted as an achievement. Which was - probably- his point. And Mr Mahavira can be patriarch of what-ever, but his "Do not..." is impossible to follow. Even for vegans.

    But even if it could be, I'm not one for following orders.

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