I AM COMPLETELY FINE WITH AGNOSTICS, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM, THIS IS JUST MY THOUGHTS. and yes, I have a better camera, I just wanted to try out the new webcam
@zxcvqwe2 The difference between atheists and agnostics is that an atheist can come to a conclusion with the knowledge they have. However, the scientific method (followed by atheists) allows for change with new evidence. As of now, I see no definitive proof God could exist, so I have no reason to. Being agnostic with this evidence (or lack thereof) doesn't make sense to me. Also "a real atheist doesn't care about proof" Atheist don't believe in god because they care about proof (or lack thereof)
@porjaymaspazzatron no, your opinion is wrong in this case, and judging by those atheist you know, they are agnosti, a real atheist doesnt care about proof and what the fuck with the gravity joke
@zxcvqwe2 So I'm wrong for having an opinion? As far as I can tell every atheist I've met would become theistic should actual evidence appear. This is no different from agnosticism, and even though definitions say otherwise, Earth was once defined as the center of the universe. Should you will it, however, your gravity powers could make that happen
agnosticism - One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. that is your opinion george, i have just showed you the definitions, you i am an agnostic by this definition, your way of thinking things is different than everyone else, just like almost everyone, that is ur opinion but in this case it is just out right wrong.
@zxcvqwe2 false, this is my video, I decide when discussion is over. "most of the time what u think is wrong" you're on the fast track to getting banned, dude. a lot of people say they are agnostics but in my opinion, I don't see how it differs from atheism. You are saying "show me proof and I will believe" and that is exactly what atheism is. There is no middle, because it's just like innocent until proven guilty.
@porjaymaspazzatron you can think of what you want george, but most of the time what u think is wrong, just stop trying to argue george, i know you love too, there are alot of people who are agnostics who are right in between, u may not be but that doesnt mean you can say everyone else is wrong, end of discussion
@porjaymaspazzatron there is little proof for both theory's, meaning that there isnt substantial proof to show that he is or isnt real, there is proof like there was a person named jesus who was crucified, he could have just been a crazy dude and there is things like that, if i hear about substantial proof for either theory it will make me believe what that proof shows
@zxcvqwe2 If there is proof for both theories than both are true. It's really one or the other. When you think about it, something I forgot to mention is that something does not exist until it is proven to exist. I could just as easily say there is a small teacup floating around the Kuiper Belt, and even though you can't disprove it, I can't prove it so you have no reason to believe me.
George, im an agnostic, im like split right down the middle, there is proof for both theory's, there could be a higher power, but i would need cold hard proof, that unicorn thing actually sounds about right
@zxcvqwe2 The difference between atheists and agnostics is that an atheist can come to a conclusion with the knowledge they have. However, the scientific method (followed by atheists) allows for change with new evidence. As of now, I see no definitive proof God could exist, so I have no reason to. Being agnostic with this evidence (or lack thereof) doesn't make sense to me. Also "a real atheist doesn't care about proof" Atheist don't believe in god because they care about proof (or lack thereof)
porjaymaspazzatron 1 year ago
@porjaymaspazzatron no, your opinion is wrong in this case, and judging by those atheist you know, they are agnosti, a real atheist doesnt care about proof and what the fuck with the gravity joke
zxcvqwe2 1 year ago
@zxcvqwe2 So I'm wrong for having an opinion? As far as I can tell every atheist I've met would become theistic should actual evidence appear. This is no different from agnosticism, and even though definitions say otherwise, Earth was once defined as the center of the universe. Should you will it, however, your gravity powers could make that happen
porjaymaspazzatron 1 year ago
@porjaymaspazzatron atheistic - rejecting any belief in gods
agnosticism - One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. that is your opinion george, i have just showed you the definitions, you i am an agnostic by this definition, your way of thinking things is different than everyone else, just like almost everyone, that is ur opinion but in this case it is just out right wrong.
zxcvqwe2 1 year ago
@zxcvqwe2 false, this is my video, I decide when discussion is over. "most of the time what u think is wrong" you're on the fast track to getting banned, dude. a lot of people say they are agnostics but in my opinion, I don't see how it differs from atheism. You are saying "show me proof and I will believe" and that is exactly what atheism is. There is no middle, because it's just like innocent until proven guilty.
porjaymaspazzatron 1 year ago
@porjaymaspazzatron you can think of what you want george, but most of the time what u think is wrong, just stop trying to argue george, i know you love too, there are alot of people who are agnostics who are right in between, u may not be but that doesnt mean you can say everyone else is wrong, end of discussion
zxcvqwe2 1 year ago
@zxcvqwe2 And just like "innocent until proven guilty," "doesn't exist until proven to exist," such as my teacup example.
porjaymaspazzatron 1 year ago
@porjaymaspazzatron there is little proof for both theory's, meaning that there isnt substantial proof to show that he is or isnt real, there is proof like there was a person named jesus who was crucified, he could have just been a crazy dude and there is things like that, if i hear about substantial proof for either theory it will make me believe what that proof shows
zxcvqwe2 1 year ago
@zxcvqwe2 If there is proof for both theories than both are true. It's really one or the other. When you think about it, something I forgot to mention is that something does not exist until it is proven to exist. I could just as easily say there is a small teacup floating around the Kuiper Belt, and even though you can't disprove it, I can't prove it so you have no reason to believe me.
porjaymaspazzatron 1 year ago
George, im an agnostic, im like split right down the middle, there is proof for both theory's, there could be a higher power, but i would need cold hard proof, that unicorn thing actually sounds about right
zxcvqwe2 1 year ago