@ThePinkMan No, I meant that DeLucia ISN'T a nutcase. But yeah, cristianpino seems to basically be saying what I think. I've also done Krav Maga, and about half of it is groin attacks, and it is widely regarded as one of the best martial arts for real-life situations. They really can completely destroy someone if you get them right.
@cristianpino Applying a rear naked choke to an expert could be very complicated, but touching the nose(also forbbiden) makes it easy... Is not that you go there strait, but when properly executed with strategy (right point, momentum, torque), those moves terminate a fight inmediately, and there are many "magic points".
@ThePinkMan Sorry to interrupt; but testicles are one of the "magic buttons" for sure. I practice MAA and krav maga in paralell for some years(KM is basically a dirty MA+weapons) and is amazing how a beautiful chess match as the bjj turns in randori, can be inmediately terminated by grabbing the balls or with a strategic punch in the medulla oblongata(wich means paralisis or death, that's why is strictly forbidden in all m.arts, but is always there unprotected in many moves...).
@Aidanownz I've seen people try to nut punch from that position before. Getting a strong shot in is not easy. Besides, with the adrenaline of the fight, Royce would've been able to shake it off and beat him just as quickly as he had done.
By the way, he wasn't a UFC champion at this point. And DeLucia isn't a nutcase. He went on to be a successful fighter himself. He actually fought Royce again in the UFC back when groin attacks were legal. He still lost.
@ThePinkMan I know that, but all I'm saying is that from the position he was in, a strong shot, or even two, to the balls would have got him free, if not giving him the advantage.
Yeah, but that guy was a nutcase, and he was fighting an ex-UFC Champion. If it had been a well trained assailant then it would have been a more effective strategy.
@Aidanownz Dude, I'm a lifelong owner and operator of a ballsack. I know it hurts. I've also been in enough fights to know that nut shots are not the be-all-end-all in hand-to-hand combat. Low blows can both be shook off and defended against.
Former UFC champ Guy Mezger recently got in a fight defending a woman from some random nutcase. The assailant tried to bite Guy and grab his balls. Guy ended up having to knock him out three times.
@ThePinkMan Have you ever been kicked in the balls? Even a reasonably low-powered kick can put you on the floor for a couple of minutes. These guys are stronger than your average blokes, so if he'd hit the other in the balls hard then it would have incapacitated him, most definetely. I agree that if Royce had done that too then he would probably have won, but at that moment if DeLucia had decided to go for a ball-shot then he would have won.
@Aidanownz Because Royce has more skill than DeLucia and is equally capable of biting and grabbing balls. Gerard Gordeau bit Royce's ear in the UFC 1 finals and all it did was piss Royce off and make him hold onto a choke longer just to teach him a lesson.
The balls and eyes aren't magic buttons. If you're fighting someone much more athletic or skilled than you, odds are you aren't going to turn the tide by going for his nuts. You might even give him ideas of what to do to you.
@Aidanownz oh man i got hit in the nuts from playing futsal and it still hurts >_<
chilam1 12 hours ago
@ThePinkMan No, I meant that DeLucia ISN'T a nutcase. But yeah, cristianpino seems to basically be saying what I think. I've also done Krav Maga, and about half of it is groin attacks, and it is widely regarded as one of the best martial arts for real-life situations. They really can completely destroy someone if you get them right.
Aidanownz 4 days ago
@cristianpino Applying a rear naked choke to an expert could be very complicated, but touching the nose(also forbbiden) makes it easy... Is not that you go there strait, but when properly executed with strategy (right point, momentum, torque), those moves terminate a fight inmediately, and there are many "magic points".
cristianpino 4 days ago
@ThePinkMan Sorry to interrupt; but testicles are one of the "magic buttons" for sure. I practice MAA and krav maga in paralell for some years(KM is basically a dirty MA+weapons) and is amazing how a beautiful chess match as the bjj turns in randori, can be inmediately terminated by grabbing the balls or with a strategic punch in the medulla oblongata(wich means paralisis or death, that's why is strictly forbidden in all m.arts, but is always there unprotected in many moves...).
cristianpino 4 days ago
@Aidanownz I've seen people try to nut punch from that position before. Getting a strong shot in is not easy. Besides, with the adrenaline of the fight, Royce would've been able to shake it off and beat him just as quickly as he had done.
By the way, he wasn't a UFC champion at this point. And DeLucia isn't a nutcase. He went on to be a successful fighter himself. He actually fought Royce again in the UFC back when groin attacks were legal. He still lost.
ThePinkMan 5 days ago
@ThePinkMan I know that, but all I'm saying is that from the position he was in, a strong shot, or even two, to the balls would have got him free, if not giving him the advantage.
Yeah, but that guy was a nutcase, and he was fighting an ex-UFC Champion. If it had been a well trained assailant then it would have been a more effective strategy.
Aidanownz 5 days ago
@Aidanownz Dude, I'm a lifelong owner and operator of a ballsack. I know it hurts. I've also been in enough fights to know that nut shots are not the be-all-end-all in hand-to-hand combat. Low blows can both be shook off and defended against.
Former UFC champ Guy Mezger recently got in a fight defending a woman from some random nutcase. The assailant tried to bite Guy and grab his balls. Guy ended up having to knock him out three times.
ThePinkMan 6 days ago
@ThePinkMan Have you ever been kicked in the balls? Even a reasonably low-powered kick can put you on the floor for a couple of minutes. These guys are stronger than your average blokes, so if he'd hit the other in the balls hard then it would have incapacitated him, most definetely. I agree that if Royce had done that too then he would probably have won, but at that moment if DeLucia had decided to go for a ball-shot then he would have won.
Aidanownz 6 days ago
@Aidanownz Because Royce has more skill than DeLucia and is equally capable of biting and grabbing balls. Gerard Gordeau bit Royce's ear in the UFC 1 finals and all it did was piss Royce off and make him hold onto a choke longer just to teach him a lesson.
The balls and eyes aren't magic buttons. If you're fighting someone much more athletic or skilled than you, odds are you aren't going to turn the tide by going for his nuts. You might even give him ideas of what to do to you.
ThePinkMan 6 days ago
Jason got this fight because he got tired of waiting around for Steven Seagal. Look it up!
Kyros 1 week ago