On Monday, July 20, 2009, BGM followed Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, on the final day of his visit to Washington, D.C.
The final stop was the White House where Gage, with Slesinger, laid an AE911Truth banner on the sidewalk and addressed the tourists gathered there. Gage got into a heated but cordial debate with a man who identified himself as Kevin, a "reformed truther" and the former "debunking director" on the JREF Forum.
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Baltimore GrassRoots Media
http://www.baltimoregrassrootsmedia.org/files/ba663a3dee911a3743077b77e13ba72...
@ucancallmeOh I trust the firefighters who were actually there and not a video that will show you only one side of the building, like most conspiracy videos do. The building was an inferno inside. FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi said “We were looking at two large bodies of fire that neither of us in our 33-year careers had ever seen anything that enormous...I didn’t think we would come out of this unscathed at all. It was just too enormous” Do you feel he's lying?
brassbonanza97 17 minutes ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ No, I don't know of anyone in the 9/11 Truth Movement who is accusing any firefighter of any wrongdoing, whatsoever. Let's be crystal clear on that.
watch?v=-GUTmmqfmyg
WTC 7 Freefall by David Chandler
There was a debunker, I don't remember which, who said 'Watch this video, you'll see how the fire raged on and there was no water suppression.' I watched it. There was 20 seconds of inferno, then the fire subsided dramatically. If you have a better video, please show it.
ucancallmeOh 21 minutes ago
@ucancallmeOh Did you not see the other side of WTC7? With all the smoke billowing out? As the old saying goes, where there is smoke, there is fire. What about the many, many quotes from firefighters saying the building had fires on almost every floor? If it was a controlled demolition, then why did FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro pull the firefighters out of the area a full TWO HOURS before it collapsed? Was Nigro and the FDNY "in on it?"
brassbonanza97 41 minutes ago
@brassbonanza97 ~ If it weren't for Alex Jones, a lot of great patriots would not get any air time at all because the MSM (mainstream media) is owned by multi-national corporations who put profit above people. The debunkers, paid and unpaid, always try to make character assassinations against people who threaten their profit or their belief system.
WTC 7 was CD (Controlled Demolition). You can't argue against that, so you desperately try to veer off-topic.
watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
AE-- WTC 7
ucancallmeOh 50 minutes ago
@MrRexquando Who are you calling a Douche bag bitch? Who do you think your talking to? You don't fucking tell me what to do nigga! You understand me. Your a punk ass bitch. Don't mess with me man!, Don't Do that.
Why do you deny my truth? Why?
Hotters70652XTY 1 hour ago
@ucancallmeOh And assholes like Alex Jones have to "sell-out" and "tow the line" so people will still tune into their shows. If he doesn't claim conspiracies, he has no show. 99.99% of architects and engineers DISAGREE with A&E for 9/11 Truth. Wouldn't that make it a consensus that Richard Gage is wrong?
brassbonanza97 1 hour ago
@MrRexquando ~ How can I claim that the NIST report is correct if you say that I claim to never have read it? I never said that the NIST report is correct. This is just one more instance of you misquoting me.
Popular Mechanics = debunked.
Universities need gov't funding through grants to get the big bucks, so they have to sell-out and tow the line.
Patriotsquestion911(dot)com has former CIA, FBI, and military officers, as well as firefighters, family of victims, AND university professors.
ucancallmeOh 2 hours ago
@ucancallmeOh You go back and forth. Sometimes you say the NIST report is correct and sometimes it isn't. Which is it? If their report is wrong it in no way proves any other theory is correct. Its called science look into it.
NIST Shared all their work (FACT).
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Most important question:
Have you actually read the NIST report?
Popular Mechanics?
MIT summary?
Univ Sydney summary?
You haven't read any of them (you admitted this). So all you know is what Griffin feeds you.
MrRexquando 2 hours ago
@ucancallmeOh Let's just say for the sake of argument that the 15 current engineers were no where near the investigation to even guess at the data (FACT).
So what did they base their blue couch side summaries on in Gage's video?
However 150 engineers belonging to ASCE were involved in the investigation and did have access to materials and data (you have access too). I have provided you there names in the past. They are available for interviews!
MrRexquando 2 hours ago
@MrRexquando ~ Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that 16 engineers (a retired engineer counts) say that the only way that WTC 7 falls into its own footprint, traveling at free fall for 100 feet, is if all the steel beams are severed at once. This does not fit with the NIST partial model, that only goes to "the initiation of collapse" and which they won't share.
WTC 7 and WTC towers were controlled demolition. The 16 engineers can prove it in court. So, you still FAIL!
ucancallmeOh 3 hours ago