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@m1chae15 how can you lack grace if God gives grace to all people you may lack the knowledge of scripture but in scripture there are a few non-jewish pre-Christ kings that through grace are told to do things. I know there are ways to correlate this to Gnosticism but how do you correlate it.
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the universe did not begin, there was no big bang, any rational person would see that the big bang is a deeply flawed theory, I mean if you look at the history, all of the first proofs were decisively refuted and now the big bang requires three things, dark energy/matter, and inflation, and we have no idea what any of those 3 things are, but the physicist say "we know they exist because we need them to make our theory work"
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It is either knowable by natural reason, or it isn't. Perhaps because there is nothing to know.
Otherwise, God has to reveal himself past that point. Directly. No getting around that, and Faith is still the response to that grace. A gift, which can be refused, abused, returned, or accepted, cherished, and nourished. Strangely enough, the whole thing seems to segue to Gnosticism. Only the elite, pro or con, can know. What about those lacking the natural capacity either way?
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@HHBones what was it before that was the ball of matter setting there for ever I can show you two recent videos by scientist that point that before that point in time there was nothing and most of it is based on the thought that something not in this universe led to the creation of this universe(one says a ripple of parallel universes the other says a parallel unverse sparked the creation of our universe.)
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@paulinator61 Where here is there not a need for God? If there was NOTHING before the universe began, then there was NOTHING which could've possibly effected the creation of the universe, since the effect couldn't have exist, and if NOTHING existed before the beginning, then that's reason enough to say that nothing in this universe, in and of itself, can GRANT itself existence. Hence, the theory of "pre-existing" anything goes out the window. "Nothing -> Something" makes no sense without God.
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@paulinator61 Just watch the video and dont come here just to comment . You obviously did not watch the video
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It really pains me to see someone twisting science into a caricature of itself in order to prove something it doesn't. Science just says the laws of physics break down at the big bang; there is no "before" the big bang in our universe, so no need for a creator.
String theory suggests a collision of pre-existing "branes" could cause a big bang. Quantum gravity suggests that universes could arise out of black holes. There are real reasons to believe our universe had a natural cause.
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@TenderTrap86 Science is only deemed science once it has tangible proof for a said explanation. Faith without knowledge IS guessing. And why does there have to be this "God" entity at the beginning of the big bang; is it not possible that there is another force that our relatively adolescent technology cannot yet acknowledge or measure? History has followed the same pattern, we have supernatural explanations for things we cannot yet understand until the means is discovered, ie atoms, space, etc.
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I always dislike it when people try to prove the existence of God.
How many times did Christ say "Thy faith has made thee whole"? Not "thy knowledge". Not "thy scientific data". But, "thy faith".
The origin of the universe are a total mystery. And, so is the origin of life. But, like GK Chesterton put it, it's of much more greater importance to focus on the origin of that origin; God. Period. End of story. The rest is mere guessing, no matter how many times it's referred to as "science".
yes, science and Catholicism are compatible. You just need a good understanding of both
pflubber 1 year ago 23
@paulinator61 How can nothing create somthing?
How did the "nature" of the universe come to be?
What laws were put into palce and by who or what?
SeanShannohan 6 months ago 4