Muhammad Ali vs Zora Folley HD
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have watched 30 Ali fights in the last few weeks in honor of the man's birthday. and every comment section has people talking about Tyson. folks, just give it a rest.
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@pilates68 Thanks for your explanation but the Ali before his license was suspended would have been tough to beat. His timing was so good. The 3 year absence messed his timing up. But everybody has a right to their opinion.
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@KeitaThe1 but Joe Frazier fought in the style of Henry Armstrong who was a 30's lightweight and was a nightmare for any scientific boxer. Norton was an odd style of fighter who benefitted from Ali's light punching style, less head movement, less footwork by the time they fought. I actually think he won 2 of their 3 fights and was robbed. His mistake was that he was always drawn out of his preferred style against Foreman, Shavers, and Cooney. He wasnt as big a puncher as his physique looked.
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@KeitaThe1 Styles make fights. Frazier was the wrong guy to show off Ali's scientific style of boxing. Liston, however, was perfectly limited and slow to make Ali look amaizing. Even in the 60's Frazier would have given him trouble. He was an aggressive slugger who had a great chin and always well conditioned for the distance. Every guy Ali faced in the 60's (except Patterson) trained in the style of the previous great which was flat footed, stalking, Joe Louis. Ali destroyed those guys.
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@pilates68 What I meant was he was sentenced to 5 years in prison, his appeals was successful. But he didn't box until 3 years that hurt his entire career then after the Jerry Quary fight he fought Joe-Frazier and he lost because he wasn't the same fighter. So my question to you was do you believe if he career was consistent would he have won the Joe Frazier first fight. And beat Ken Norton in their first fight that Ken Norton broke his jaw. I wait for your answer.
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@KeitaThe1 Why does everyone think Ali went to jail??? He NEVER spent time in prison. Check your history. His boxing license was revoked and his Heavyweight title taken away, but he never went to jail over Vietnam or being a Muslim. Frazier would always give Ali trouble. His style nulifys the natural gifts of a scientific boxer, who's favorite opponent is always another boxer. Down and dirty sluggers make it a hard nights work. Ali's head movement and dancing were almost gone by Norton's time
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@pilates68 If Ali would have not been in jail do you think he would have had any problems with Frazier, Norton etc.
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@musood6630 he was 32, I think you accidentally used the '4' and yeah, at 32 and have footwork like that was amazing.
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@carmodifire Yeah Ali lost the first fight when he traded with Frazier but it was still an action packed war. Second fight he won easily despite being 42, he managed to dance most rounds but he lacked the power. 3rd fight he beat Frazier at his own game. Now using this logic if we put the Muhamad Ali of 66-7 in there with Frazier, I would honestly not be surprised if Frazier was stopped in the later rounds like 13-14. No fighter ever could beat the Ali of 66-7.
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@90038jhon I know man. I love Tyson and grew up with him, but I know enough about boxing to know that Tyson does not even approach Ali's greatness.
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ali dominated frazier while dancing, but didnt have the stamina by then to keep it up
@mrcjrowe I could just as easily say that Ali always struggled to beat Joe Frazier. Ali would have fought Tyson the same way Tony Tucker did. Use his height, tie him up, initiate clinches and fight too cautiously as he did against Ken Norton who won, and also broke Ali's jaw in the process. Tyson would be the wrong kind of opponent for Ali to show off his greatness. Even Ali could never imagine someone built like Tyson could be fast with his hands.
pilates68 1 month ago
@pilates68 Did you just compare Tony Tucker to ALI?
joshmar11 1 month ago 13