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Ben Stein - America's Education Crisis

Complete video at: http://fora.tv/2008/01/24/B... Author, economist and TV celebrity Ben Stein gives his take on the current state of education in the United States. ----- How Not to Ruin Your L...  
 
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diomedes39 (1 day ago) Show Hide
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lol ben stein. I don't know why foratv would degrade themselves like this.
diomedes39 (1 day ago) Show Hide
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he's right here even with the stereotypes surprisingly
ObamaPress (5 days ago) Show Hide
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Which is which? lol
davidklausa (6 days ago) Show Hide
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@TheGreaterSatan Also, it seems his main point in any lecture/article is that people are stupid. I think that's well enough established.
commandyou (6 days ago) Show Hide
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A group of people looking differently from another group isnt evolution. In fact in order for evolution to really work there has to be diversity in a population so that is evidence for evolution. I can assure you that macroevolution and microevolution arent scientific words. You can tell that they arent scientific words because they dont use any scientific ways to measure how much a species has to change for it to be macroevolution its all based on only opinion. Evolution is a fact!
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You are avoiding the question-- what accounts for this modification of a species while it remains a species.

Your definition of evolution is what I (and palentologists) call macroevolution. You can assure me all day long if you like, doesn't change the fact that you can't refute what I have brought to the table.

Your reason that they can't be scientific words makes no sense-- you are taking a scientific method and asking for evidence of it in the word used to describe the concept.
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The underlying premise of neo-darwin evolution is natural selection, this is what I believe you referenced in saying a diverse population is needed for evolution to happen. How this diverse population comes about is what I (and some scientists, albeit not the ones you read) call microevolution-- that is evolution on a smaller scale.

the difference between micro and macro is that micro isn't the radical dna change that macro is, but it is a dna change none-the-less, one caused by n. selection.
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Now, you can continue to rant and rave that the mico-macro distinction isn't "real" science but the facts are that Darwin saw the "micro" evolution and posited the theory of "macro" evolution. Your evidence you gave for (macro)evolution is in fact evidence for microevolutoion, or in your words NOT EVOLUTION as none of those examples involved dna radically changed enough to where it is no longer reproducible within it's own species.
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the exception to this evidence is of course, virii as they don't reproduce with themselves AT ALL, but rather hijack the reproductive capabilities of the host cells which it prey upon.

I hope you can at least agree that your definition of "evolution" is what I call "macroevolution"
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