God Appointed Hitler? (The New Testament, Government, & Morality)

While some Christian apologists are fond of asserting that but for the existence of their god, humankind would lack any real basis to criticize (must less do something about) Hitler and his Nazi regime, they all seem to forget that their holy book, the New Testament, unqualifiedly commands subjection and obedience to government as an instrument established by their god. Christians who would criticize or overthrow the Nazi government (or ANY government) would have to violate their god's unqualified commandment in order to do so. Therefore believers are on the horns of a dilemma here: act on their god's purported "objective morality" and in the process violate their god's commands as set forth in Romans, 1 Peter, and Titus OR obey their god's commands and be forced to stand by watching a horrible regime persecute and kill people.

My "God-given rights? Nonsense!" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYf1SGQEYF4

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Footnotes:

#1: William Lane Craig debating John Shook at the University of British Columbia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQMh7EZDWM

#2" Carter, T.L., "The Irony of Romans 13", Novum Testamentum 46(3) (July 2004): 209-228.

#3: Tiefel, Han, "The German Lutheran Church and the Rise of National Socialism", Church History 41(3) (Sept 1972): 326-336.

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[reingo73]

Titus 3:1, TLB. "Remind your people to obey the government and its officers, and always to be obedient and ready for any HONEST work."

[ProfMTH]

@reingo73 Your point?

[reingo73]

@ProfMTH

Oh Atheist

[ProfMTH]

@reingo73 "Oh Atheist"

Yes?

[ProfMTH]

@IndianaJoel93 Even if they were, what would that have to do with this video?

[CelticAngloPress]

@36inc

The wonderful way of which you reply with actually critiquing the facts is a perfect example.

Like the way you also used the straw-man argument, made up your argument based on nothing actually mentioned, then went about to destroy the argument you invented in the first place, and of which was never brought up.

The Marxist radical mindset at play.

[36inc]

@CelticAngloPress Actually I just said that comparing Religions (or cults) with Atheism is inaccurate. And I told you why afterward.Atheism isnt much of a world view on its own, you have to add to it to be criticized. You wanna pretend thats radical go right ahead,Christians and Muslims are the most dangerous cults right now,and capitalism is failing, Again.Atheism is not a practice, its a definition of one trait.Great irony in accusing me of straw-man, and here you are making up shit about marx

[36inc]

@CelticAngloPress The fact of the matter is Science and Secularism gives us what we need from a world view. Nothing you see before you is possible without it. That is why atheists commonly Are out spoken or in your inane view "radical".agian this is a human commonality which atheism doesnt suggest would go away. also a radical Atheistic move, The creation of the USA. Seperating Church and state is absolutely needed for freedom and justice.In other words The state should stay atheist.

[36inc]

@CelticAngloPress Atheism is the defualt opinion. Moral discussions like your views and obvious bais agianst Communism are not an arguement. youre only explianing the human nature.Not the differences between one nature or the other its the appeal of commonalities, which is a waste of breath.I have stuff in common wit alot of people that I disagree with morally, but that remains irrelevant.Atheism Doesnt say anything accept maybe "There is no god" Everything else you cite about it is simply human

[ProfMTH]

@bronxboy47 "Good luck with your private dictionary. Notify me when it's ready for publication."

lol

[bronxboy47]

@CelticAngloPress I repeat: Redefining religion to include atheism only works if you're willing to alter the meaning of religion beyond recognition.

Good luck with your private dictionary. Notify me when it's ready for publication.

[CelticAngloPress]

@bronxboy47

Atheism has tonnes in common with religion, both have a radical bent on persecution for peoples beliefs (Communism was the greatest expression of the Atheistic mindset)

Atheists are very radical and often have a hard time not shoving their views and 'Atheism" down others throats, an inability to live and let live.

Also a firm arrogance and ignorance follows both, not to mention misrepresentation, out right lying, and propaganda.

Also Atheists also deny Evolution & IQ

[bronxboy47]

@CelticAngloPress "Atheism is a form of religion." That's absurd. It's like saying heterosexuality is a form of homosexuality. Redefining religion to include atheism only works if you're willing to alter the meaning of religion beyond recognition.

[andrewlgm]

Christians are incapable of honest reasoning. This evidence from their own book means absolutely nothing as they're masters at creating excuses. I find it unbelievable that we have scholars and apologists still defending the morality and "historical" veracity in the Bible. It would be funny if it weren't so serious. Best humor on youtube? Go watch a muslim apologist defending the koran.