Manami Toyota vs Toshiyo Yamada (Hair vs Hair) 08/15/92 - 2 of 3

Part 2 of 3

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Sports

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• manami
• toyota
• toshiyo
• yamada
• hair
• match
• all
• japan
• women's
• pro
• wrestling
• joshi
• puroresu
• ajw
• zenjo
• 山田敏代
• 豊田真奈美
• 女子プロレス

[HeroicPunk]

@FokinRG I never brought up "botches" or even "Sports Entertainment". I was more referring to Ring of Honor, which doesn't involve "overselling", and has plenty of athletes among their very talented roster. And we can agree to disagree, I guess, but I just don't think a person kicking out of multiple head-bumps and repeated finishers equals "realistic". There are limits to the punishment a person can take before they can't get up again, and I think Japan often times takes that limit too far.

[FokinRG]

@HeroicPunk have you seen new japan wrestling? i don't get it, i preffer "this" than a botched match with overselling moves, wich looks even more fake, at least in this matches people can see why wrestlers are ATHLETS, people says "wrestling is fake" when it isn't, they see the "show". So i preffer a no-selling match before some over botched thing. Sports Entertaiment is great, but it kind of "support" those dumb people who think wrestling is fake...

[HeroicPunk]

@FokinRG I just hate no-selling. It kills any build the match has had. It takes away the realism of it all. It's one of my biggest gripes about Japanese wrestling, where the matches are "epic" because of several finishers in a row, a few nasty head-bumps, then more brutal moves to FINALLY end the match just short of killing your opponent. I think it tries too hard, and in doing so, the impact of that athleticism is lost.  When moves mean nothing, why care about the match at all?

[FokinRG]

@HeroicPunk actually cena's crap is worst than a no-sealing match, back then this was SPORT, about athletics and not about show and entertainment.

[WrestlingFanCritic]

this wrestling is more stiff then when men fight in american wrestling

[HeroicPunk]

Where's the selling? She got worked over for minutes before, then does four top-rope dropkicks in a row? Running around the ring from corner to corner? Leaping to the top rope with ease? I know Japanese matches are typically like this, but I just don't get it. In some ways, this is worse than John Cena. I hate to say it, but it's true.

[Firestartersan]

The quality of this match gets better as it progresses.

[JerRudo]

Love how the ref is 2 steps behind on every move

[fermla2]

wow a lot of suplexes manami is probably the best female wrestler of all time

[roylucier]

FIRST COMMENT!!! WOO HOO!!! How many different versions of the suplex does Toyota know?!?!?!!