Ground Zero: in reply to TommyfromtheBronx

Responding to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BPjDxzo4ys

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[wordforge]

your example of the Muslim lad who fought for the U.S. is a cheap trick, using people's own sympathy against them to make them doubt their own judgement.

What about Nidal Malik "AbduWali" Hasan the Muslim U.S. army Major who killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at Fort Hood Texas? Does that make your argument invalid? I think not.

[DLandonCole]

@wordforge I disagree. Tommy was make statements about a class of people without qualifying them; I only needed to provide one example to show his argument was, at least in part, faulty. I did so and I deliberately rammed it home. If Khan is not representative, then neither is Hasan.

[wordforge]

@DLandonCole Precisely. One example proves nothing. You also make sweeping statements about groups, the difference being you tend to be overly optimistic about people and Tommy seems overly cynical.

[DLandonCole]

@wordforge No. I made it clear that there is variety in Islam.

[MagnusNielsenBewick]

I don' t think I have moved the goalposts. Come to think of it: I can't say that I have ever heard any devout RELIGIOUS JEW criticise the actions of Israel. But I have heard many Jews criticise Israel and some are even hostile to the very idea of Israel. Yes some Muslims criticise other Muslims. There has been bloodshed between Shia and Sunni for 14 centuries. But you still won't accept my main point: criticism of Islam does NOT equate to general criticism of ALL Muslims

[DLandonCole]

@MagnusNielsenBewick You suddenly started applying different standards for Jews than Muslims!

I don't think that criticism of Islam equates to criticism of all Muslims, but I do think that insisting that you know the one, true Islamic theology is fallacious.

[ZALATAMONKEY]

@DLandonCole no you didn't

[MagnusNielsenBewick]

I spent my early adolscence in Hyderabad, India where I became familiar with Muslims at first hand. Since July 2005, I have read the Quran in several different translations. I have studied the earliest Biography of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq which gives a clear account of his life as a crimnal psychopath. I have studied the history of Islam with its wholesale massacres of the Hindus and others. If Islam were a gospel of Joy, Peace and Goodwill, I think I would have discovered that fact by now

[CosmicSeaman]

Excellent response.

[ManlySlut]

Brilliant video.