"Koshinage" is just "hip throw" I believe. It can be done any number of ways from any number of attacks. The exact way that it is performed isn't the focus so much as the movement is.
Also different disciplines will call the same movement different things.
Does it really matter? I am relatively sure that several ryu not mention have some thing along those lines as well, Medieval ringen does for sure and neither Ueshiba nor Kano spoke 15th century medieval German.
My point was that even though judo and aikido share a common heritage but are separated entities with no filiations, there is nothing baffling in finding the same techniques in both.
I practice aikido and I have done that move from the inside and the outside.
Most of the Jujutsu for Aikido came from the Takeda line of Daito ryu and some from shinto ryu so there isn't much in common between Judo and Aikido unless we are talking Tomiki aikido.
That's really not true... Judo was created from the jujutsu schools (Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū and Kito ryu) Kano Jigoro sensei had studied before he created Judo.
"harmony" is impossible UNLESS you can read your opponents mind and i don't ANYONE who can.
dobberdoss 5 months ago
"Koshinage" is just "hip throw" I believe. It can be done any number of ways from any number of attacks. The exact way that it is performed isn't the focus so much as the movement is.
Also different disciplines will call the same movement different things.
vorheesemycheese2 1 year ago
Would not call this a koshi waza .It is more like ippon Seoi nage[shoulder throw]as per Judo.
Sakumeikan 1 year ago
Ikeda is nice to watch, thanks for the vid!
AikidoTV 2 years ago
thats a seoinage, and judo/aikido came from koryu ju jutsu melvin, so you're stupid as balls.
chucknorrispranks 2 years ago
Most likely true.
Peekingduck 2 years ago
Does it really matter? I am relatively sure that several ryu not mention have some thing along those lines as well, Medieval ringen does for sure and neither Ueshiba nor Kano spoke 15th century medieval German.
My point was that even though judo and aikido share a common heritage but are separated entities with no filiations, there is nothing baffling in finding the same techniques in both.
I practice aikido and I have done that move from the inside and the outside.
willaumep 2 years ago
I suppose you mean 'koshi' こし ( 腰 )
Most of the Jujutsu for Aikido came from the Takeda line of Daito ryu and some from shinto ryu so there isn't much in common between Judo and Aikido unless we are talking Tomiki aikido.
Peekingduck 2 years ago
yes you are right, judo and aikido are coming from koryu JJ.
so yes it is ippon seoinague and it is a very direct way of doing shiho nage.
koshy as the name indicates is thehip throw.
all aikido tecnhique can have koshi.
in fact they should have koshy if you do mean buisness.
willaumep 2 years ago
That's really not true... Judo was created from the jujutsu schools (Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū and Kito ryu) Kano Jigoro sensei had studied before he created Judo.
Peekingduck 2 years ago 2