Ryan Hall (Fifty/50 BJJ) v. Nolan Dutcher (Jungle Gym/Black and Blue)

My first match from the Grapplers Quest Team Challenge
October 2007
Round 2

Middleweight (180-200lbs)

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• ryan
• hall
• nolan
• dutcher
• bjj
• mma
• ultimate
• fight
• ufc
• grappling
• jiu
• jitsu
• wrestling
• submission
• martial
• arts
• combat
• sports
• lloyd
• irvin
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• triangle
• gracie

[heshhh88]

At my first pan ams I made the mistake of sitting guard when the other guy was already sitting guard exactly like nolan did at 2:20..I think its a stupid rule that it counts as a sweep and 2 points but hey you should know the rules first...

[danpats1]

2:20 did the ref count that as a sweep? wtf?

[chomama77]

@Arcturistheballer Thanks for the education. lol And again its nice to have a normal conversation with someone on this site rather then a bunch of shit talk. Take it easy and don't be surprised that if I come across some other questions about the scoring or rules that I hit you up again. Thanks. Later.

[Arcturistheballer]

@chomama77 yeah hall took top position for 3 seconds after being on his back = 2 pts for him.

[chomama77]

@Arcturistheballer I see. So, that fact that Hall stood up after other dude went to his butt and he stayed there for 3 secs thats is the change in control? Thanks again for not being a douche. lol

[Arcturistheballer]

@chomama77 yeah this is the first non shit talking conversation ive had on youtube in 7 years. Only way I don't get 2 points if that happens is if you have me in a submission if I escape the sub then I get 2 points but only after I hold the position for 3 seconds. You sweep some one you need at least 3 seconds on top to get points. In this case this guy just stayed their for 3 seconds.

[chomama77]

@Arcturistheballer Thanks. So, just so I understand what your saying... If me & you were in a match & you were on your butt & I'm on my feet but after slight engagement I decide to go to my butt for whatever reason (besides for an immediate defensive counter) you get 2 points? What if I would of managed to get some sort of advantage right after I went to my butt or are the points automatic? Thanks for being normal. lol Some of these goofs on YouTube act as though everything is common knowledge.

[Arcturistheballer]

@chomama77 yeah hall starts by pulling guard (sitting guard) his opponent starts having a lot of trouble dealing with halls guard so he backs off and pulls guard himself. If u pull guard and reverse the other guy its 2 points. He can't just say oh I want to play bottom now but I don't wanna give up points.

[chomama77]

@Arcturistheballer I'm a newbie so forgive the question. Your comment, is that why Ryan got points for what looked like the other guy only doing what Ryan was doing in the beginning?

[wooimcool25]

holy shit that was awesome.