The Krumphau (Outdated Interpretations)

SEVERAL OF THE INTERPRETATIONS IN THIS VIDEO ARE OUTDATED. A NEW VIDEO WITH UPDATED INTERPRETATIONS CAN BE FOUND HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bulXaHzNJ9Q&feature=channel_page

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• martial
• arts
• krumphau
• liechtenauer
• longsword
• sword
• ringeck
• fechten
• fencing
• combat

[Scropecaptayne]

Lot of control and trust.

Good on you Guys!!

[MEMAG]

Thanks!

[Meshelsidek]

You guys are amazing, keep up the good work. Maybe if I come in your part of the world I could come and visit your classes. If ever you people come to Montreal just send me a message.

[MEMAG]

Thank you very much, although I wouldn't say that we're amazing : ). If ever you're in the area just send me an email and I'd be happy to give you directions to our school. Take care!

[ZanavAkrav]

Hello there, I just wanted to say thank you for uploading such great videos.

I do have a small suggestion/request, if I may. A short description of the weapon, the time of it's use and maybe a short history (line or two), would add much to the understanding and appreciation of your videos. As a non expert the types of swords, especially, tend to be confusing.

Regardless, thanks again, keep up the good work and for god's sake, BE CAREFUL! :)

[DomusUlixes]

Why would you Krump from an oberhau from von tag over the head, when it lands straight down?

I like the sigmund move on the end.

[SokSa]

well done. best western sword wielding I've seen so far (as opposed to eastern)

[TheSchwert]

Sehr schöne Arbeit

Fechtergruß

Heiko M

[flashart]

Excellent!

The music is very Olde Worlde and fitting too.

All you need now are the padded codpieces... ;)

Thanks for posting!

[GOBRAGH2]

I like it. Looking forward to mismatched weapons, or crusader techniques.

[CollegiumInArmis]

No worries. I don't think the other descriptions of the krump+kurtzhau that I've seen in SR or PvD contradict Meyer though. The key feature (intact right up to Meyer) is that we a) act as though we will krump but instead b) change through under his oberhau, then c) "wind" in attack, moving our hilt to the right: this can be in the process of a cut, thrust or slice. The exact exit technique isn't as imporant as ensuring we are under his sword and have engagement (keeping us safe). Good stuff!

[MEMAG]

Von Danzig writes: "Mark, this is when he wants to oberhau you from his right side. Then drive high up with the hands and do as if you will bind on his sword with the Krumphau, and drive below through his sword with the point, and stab in to the other side to the face or the breast. And be sure that you are well above before the head with the hilt." Lecküchner also has a version if this technique that ends with a short edge cut from above, if I remember correctly. Thank you for your input!

[MEMAG]

Hi Bill. Thanks for the compliment! We've reinterpreted many things found in this video since it was made, the "Krump nicht Kurtzhau Durchwechsel do mit schaw" being one. However, Meyer's version of the cut is not the same as the earlier Masters'. There is a clear image of the end of this technique in the Goliath Manuscript, Page 41 (21 Recto).

[CollegiumInArmis]

Meyer's text from Forgeng: "When your opponent cuts at you from above, then act as if you intended to bind on his sword with the Krumphau, that is with the short edge; but forego this, and quickly go through under his sword; strike with the short edge and crossed arms over his right arm at his head; thus you have caught his sword with the long edge and executed the short cut." Note the fact that you have caught his sword with your long edge: this blade contact is what helps keep you safe. HTH