Sergio versus Arnold.

The great Cuban bodybuilder versus Arnold.

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• Olympia.

[Cragails]

Arnold every time for me.  Sergio was HUGE but was a shapeless lump ( in my opinion).

Check Arnold's quad definition , longer sweeping lats and terrific shapely biceps.

Id say a lot of the pics put forward for comparison here were bias toward Sergio in an attempt to show Arnold in poor light by comparison ( & even then he looked superior )

[Peter9761]

@Cragails Hmmm no-you are seeing good pics of both men-no need for bias as Sergio was far superior.

Anyone who think sergio was 'a shapeless lump' knows nothing about bodybuilding.

[MrMrDickism1]

both of them are great!

[neilp77]

@Peter9761 "Shapeless lump?" Gee, these Arnold fanatics are clueless and misinformed. Anybody who favors thighs that were inferior and triceps and forearms that were weak, coupled with wide hips were deprived of oxygen.

[neilp77]

Read an article on Larry Scott, in which he had made a comment in thanking his lucky stars that he was glad didn't have to go head to head with Sergio because he was so huge and didn't have any weak points.

[Peter9761]

0:41-great back detail-the pic from the session in London two days after the '72 Olympia.Thats after two days off his diet.

0:50,from '73,guest posing in Japan-in great condition without a contest diet.

See film of him guest posing at the Mr USA contest in '76-in great cut condition,and remember that was guest posing.

[Peter9761]

@Banderius79 There is plenty of good film of him from Olympia contests-the 'Sergio The Myth' DVD from GMV has a lot of it.

He was naturally ripped-I believe only needing to diet for 6 weeks prior to contests.As Bill Pearl said "Sergio was the first of the thin skinned vascular bodybuilders" Quite a long way from the biased view of that cheat Weider,which for some strange reason people still swallow.

The evidence of his great condition in his prime is there-its just lazy to choose to believe crap

[Peter9761]

@Banderius79 Then tell me what bodypart was weak?

As for the 'lack of detail' you need to see good footage of him-for example from the '68 Olympia.

The nonsense that he paid no or not enough attention to conditioning is propaganda from Weider,not backed up by his actual condition in his prime.

As I said,see good footage then comment-its no good looking at pics from the late seventies when he had no need to diet right down in order to still win in lesser contests.

[Banderius79]

@Peter9761 I wouldn't call him weak by no means, he was one strong fella, but his arms look wierd, huge triceps without enough detail overpowering his strange, long biceps and his delts. Abs. Huge back, but again, lack of detail. He was a great bodybuilder, if he had payed more attention to conditioning and muscle separation, he would have been perfect. And by the way, calling your personal opinion factual is hmmm... no too modest, to say the least.

[Peter9761]

@Banderius79 No,purely factual.

If you think Sergio had a weak bodypart then say so.

[Banderius79]

"Arnold had weaknesses,Sergio did not have a weak bodypart." That's a "bit" biased, isn't it ? :D 

[neilp77]

at :49, you clearly see (unless your blind Arnold devotee) that Sergio's structure is beyond what Arnold was. From his incredible V-taper to the small waist and hips to the flared thighs and massive calves (Sergio's were much better from the front.). Sergio's most muscular, front and rear lat spreads destroys Arnold. No contest.

[WILLUSUBSCRIBE]

Sergio is superior in every way as a bodybuilder and as a competitor,

Arnold had to be an immoral A-hole with mind tricks that anyone could have done but chose not to because they respected their competitors

[Peter9761]

@1987PANAGIOTIS Yeah I hadn't seen that one either.

[Peter9761]

@neilp77 True.Bio-disorder man is dead in the water.Thats one gone anyway.Three million to go.

[neilp77]

@Peter9761 Geez! We are dealing with an imbeciles here. Stupid people here, with multiple accounts. Lol!

[Peter9761]

Plenty of pics of Arnolds alleged improvements here,from 73-74,yet no evidence of it.

0:47 shows Arnold walking on stage,74 Olympia,with the usual thin thighs.Not surprising,as he had no reason to kill himself in the gym with no Sergio to face.After 72 he went downhill.

[Peter9761]

I'm still waiting for you to give Sergio's weaknesses,and thats Sergio at his peak.

As to your crazy assertions of me not knowing this and not knowing that,you seem a bit obsessed with what you think you know and everyone else doesn't.You don't know anything about Sergio that I couldn't tell you.Your problem is you are an Arnold groupie who refuses to see he was inferior.

You don't even appreciate a good pic of Sergio when you see it.

[Peter9761]

@hardcorehouse Lol!

There you go,your 'balanced' assessment is nothing of the sort.According to you,forearms don't matter,for example.Could it be because Arnie's were poor?As to thighs there is no comparison.Arnold lacked size and shape (no outer sweep) plus poor hamstrings.

Large forearms are indeed a prerequisite for great arms,just not to you.

Arnold 73-74? Way overrated.No improvements over previous years,plus he had no expectation of Sergio showing up,he of course knew he was banned.

[Peter9761]

@hardcorehouse Lol!

There you go,your 'balanced' assessment is nothing of the sort.According to you,forearms don't matter,for example.Could it be because Arnie's were poor?As to thighs there is no comparison.Arnold lacked size and shape (no outer sweep) plus poor hamstrings.

Large forearms are indeed a prerequisite for great arms,just not to you.

Arnold 73-74? Way overrated.No improvements over previous years,plus he had no expectation of Sergio showing up,he of course knew he was banned.

[Peter9761]

@hardcorehouse Lol!

There you go,your 'balanced' assessment is nothing of the sort.According to you,forearms don't matter,for example.Could it be because Arnie's were poor?As to thighs there is no comparison.Arnold lacked size and shape (no outer sweep) plus poor hamstrings.

Large forearms are indeed a prerequisite for great arms,just not to you.

Arnold 73-74? Way overrated.No improvements over previous years,plus he had no expectation of Sergio showing up,he of course knew he was banned.