Jaber Saeed Salem 2001 WWC 263.5 CJ Attempt

Top notch effort at what would have been a new world record at the time. Anyone know what happened on the jerk?

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[DaniellesBarros]

I don't care if taranenko was paid for break the world record, after all weightlifting was his job and he had a family to take care. I don't care about rezazadeh an Pisarenko, both of them had a lot of chances for lift the heaviest weight in the competitions, but only the great Leonid Taranenko had the strength and corage to lift 266, so he was the greatest ever

[ChildsPlay2008]

@LittleKris17

The most Botev (incidentally, one of my favorite lifters) ever did in competition was 250 at the 96 Atlanta games.

So, you mean to tell me that a fully peaked, world-class lifter AT THE OLYMPICS took a lift 20 kilos below his best training lift for his third attempt? Hell, 257.5 would have won him gold on bodyweight.

There's a lot of legends about guys doing monster weights in training. Until they're done at a sanctioned competition, they will remain exactly that: legends

[ChildsPlay2008]

@skirts365 We're kind of talkin about two different things here, but I'll continue this, podnuh.

Allow me to clarify something first: I love the Piz. Pound for pound, he stands with Suley, Zacharevich and Vardanyan. No, top lifts don't HAVE to be hard, but they often are. At the time, yes, Piz's 265 was the WR (and easy looking one at that), but my point is that any weightlifter would trade a heavier (superior) lift for an easy-looking, lighter lift 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

[skirts365]

@ChildsPlay2008 Why does a top lift always have to be hard? Hey podnuh, when Piz did his 265, it WAS a WR, the 265.5 and 266 later by Tara were AFTER that. I do dearly doubt another 3.3 pounds would have made Piz fail. Lifting is ALSO about other things, but guys who wreck their lifespan to do more (Pervy) aren't so smart. It's more the "perceived level of difficulty" on the part of the onlooker we're talking about. I'm not an also-ran, I never claimed to be a participant. LONG LIVE PIZ!!

[ChildsPlay2008]

@skirts365 Do you think an Olympian would choose an effortless-looking silver medal as opposed to a gut-busting, screaming, crying, gold? Do you honestly believe Piz, if given the choice again, would settle for an easy 265 over a challenging 266.5? Last I checked, the perceived level of difficulty by the competitor had no bearing on the final standings. Weightlifting is about the absolute amount of weight lifted, period. If all you care about is making it look easy, have fun being an also-ran.

[skirts365]

@LittleKris17 I have image of Botev, forgot where I found it, looks like 275KG clean (606). It's what it hell well looks like.

[weightliftingisgreat]

@ChildsPlay2008 But when they are training they will be on gear, no?!?

[skirts365]

@DaniellesBarros In "The 6 Million Dollar Man" the hero has foot race with Dick Butkas; Dick wins by slight margin. He says "I won," hero (without gasping for air) says "yeah but you're sure out of breath." The PIZ did 99.624% of the 266 and it hell well looked EASIER. I'd rather have the 265 feather in my cap than the hard looking 266 any day; especially, and weighing substantially less.

[DrinkAndNeverAskWhy]

@prsguitars92 The pull was too forward, standing from the clean proved too difficult and he had nothing left for a limit jerk.

[prsguitars92]

As for the issue with the jerk....I think he just knew he couldn't dip down enough with that much weight to jerk it. So he stopped before he dipped so far that he fell haha. Idk that's what it seems like

[prsguitars92]

@ChildsPlay2008

Agreed.

[LittleKris17]

This is very true, and like you said a lot of the info out there is based only on rumor, however my coach used to be the Bulgarian national coach and saw Botev do 270kg.

In the 88 olympics when Bulgaria withdrew their team Botev would have lifted around 270kg. Neither Botev nor Antonio Krastev got to lift. Botev at that time was doing 270kg in practice and Krastev was snatching around 225kg.