Jesus Was Not the Messiah -- Part 3 (Crucifixion "Prophecies")

Part three of my series on purported messianic prophecies, focusing here on "prophecies" Christian apologists claim predict the crucifixion of Jesus and, therefore, help to establish that he was the Messiah. As Farrel Till correctly wrote, "Since there really were no prophecies of a virgin-born, crucified, resurrected Messiah in the Old Testament, [the gospel writers and Christian apologists] had to twist and distort to give the appearance that Jesus was the long-awaited one."

Link to part two of the series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv0pgcHkrP0

Link to part four (the next part):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjJXduuNlg

Playlist for the series:

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2529F79EEAF4B995

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[OpenAirAtheist]

As an ex Calvinist theologian street evangelist turned atheist I gotta say great job !

[ProfMTH]

@OpenAirAtheist Thanks!

[Mr7777ELVIS]

? (Jesus was not the Messiah), He IS & WAS & ALWAYS will be.HE even spoke of the End Times. was HE Just Clever only. I think you are selling books or CD,s & making prophets on this GOD JESUS issue.May be it,s ADD, did you read the HOLY BIBLE for which is written & even altered to suit the times for Prophet.

[ProfMTH]

@Mr7777ELVIS "? (Jesus was not the Messiah)"

Correct.

"He IS & WAS & ALWAYS will be."

Incorrect.

"HE even spoke of the End Times"

Long line of people who've done that. Does that make each of them the Messiah?

[Bkkhngr81]

hats off for taking the time to make these. Vids like this are an excellent representation of the thoughts and frustrations of so many non-theists. Much appreciated...

[hemet92544]

@ProfMTH Jesus and Satan are "old friends": Genesis 3:15 and thou shalt bruise his heel...Psalm 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend,eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me …John 13:18 I know whom I have chosen: that scripture be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me... Matthew 26:50  And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus and took him.

[ProfMTH]

@LierzFamilyMinistry "the video ... has so many logical fallacies"

Identify 3 in the video.

"Faith is not a matter of intellect"

At least you admit it. It's quite the opposite.

[LierzFamilyMinistry]

@MrEmeraldfusion

Probably because the video is tedious, selective, and has so many logical fallacies it would take more time than it is worth to correct them. Faith is not a matter of intellect and arguing over the matter is frivolous.

[Mr7777ELVIS]

@biggingeryeti You went to Church,like many others did,you felt let down.The Lord is not a Magic Wand.He is there on HIS terms, not Peoples.If you felt there is no messiah,,& really believed that,then you and others would not fight so hard.Have an opinion,there are many things unanswered,One is Why R we here ?.You would have HIS GOLD but not HIS suffering,So/ I take it you have no purpose for your breath, yes you do,Our days R numbered,we may die today,HE has a plan for you.Look /you will find.

[AtollSurfer]

OMG! So much bull shit was rammed down out throats. It was only really only recently that Christians stopped murdering us. And the tradition carried on killing us socially in the 20th century. Now that they can't kill we can speak up, questions, examine, refute. Never in bible meeting has there ever been allow a person to question or re

fute these teaching and dogmas. OMG! Now we can debate and kick the holy shit out their stupidity. How could we have been so deceived.

[ndrummer99]

In regards to Psalm 22, in support of each reading there are both MSS. The Polyglots of Potken, Antwerp, Paris, and London, have caari in the text, and caaru is referred to in the margin. This is the case with the most correct Hebrew Bibles. And besides, even if the correct translation is indeed caari like lions they maul my hands and feet, the passage would still apply indubitably to Christ's crucifixion. Don't be fooled.

[maruf92communist]

hey, why arent u allowing comment rating?

[j919or]

"Millions of people also believed that THOSE "gods" are real '

There is one god but many teachings about God.Test the teaching about God and find that only one supports a personal God that lives inside of the repentant and that gives the gift of eternal life and that supplies strength and boldness and the fruit of the Spirit in love joy and peace.And that without God in you we are all lost.ANd u can know God now and experience him

Jesus taught that and what ive experienced it.

[kram83au]

@j919or your deluded indoctronated mind will not allow reason to come forth,so theres not much point in discussing about a god that is non exisistant. allah, vishnu,mithra,horus, what the hell the toothfairy,lepracauns,bigfoot have as much credibility as an apologist rant. self deception is not a noble virtue kid.time to grow up kid.

[Reip187]

@j919or god is a magic pony that runs a taco stand, and you can't prove otherwise.

PS: god has killed more people than anyone, or anything in the history of the universe. You are right...he doesn't admit that he is evil. He shifts the blame onto the people he "created" when he already knew they were going to be bad. God is the epitome of a hypocrite, and more evil than anything ever imagined.