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@graphattic FUCK YOU!!
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@CityofDestiny why focus on CathoIic Church?? isnt this happens to other churches asweII?
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@FAHayek89 Sorry 4 getting more rude in the reply's but I still don't know what you are advocating. Be clear & direct you can't offend me unless you try to demoralize what I know is rite or tell me I'm 2 powerless 2 effect anything.
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@FAHayek89 Why work 4 the law if the law wouldn't work for you. whether JUSTICE B SERVED by civilian victim parent or vigilante. I'll pitch the undercover sting operation to Chris Hanson on Dateline or teach a victim to decapitate. U saw Hard Candy, Rite? People of the law cant break the law & b protected by the law @ the same time. At least not during a riot. Laws only represent Government not the people. SO DON'T U "AGAINST THE LAW" ME. I'M SELF EMPOWERED & you the POWERLESS.
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@ciji916 I'm all for the change in the law. My point is that until the law was changed, the police had not choice and could not prosecute. The Church in this case did the right thing by informing the police as soon as the report was made, and the police may have wanted to prosecute, but the law wouldn't allow it. If the law is bad, that is the fault of elected officials and the populace who elect them, but there is simply nothing that can be done legally.
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@FAHayek89 What u are literal saying is unless these children fallow the right protocol for a crime committed against them that they have no understanding of or idea what exactly it means to be taken advantage of and prayed on for their vulnerability. Well good thing they changed the statue of limitations law. We demanded accountability
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@FAHayek89 U sound like one cold hatred un-compassionate sex offender defense lawyer. . Who are you trying to protect & what are you defending, the church? Defender of faith or defender of child rape?
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@FAH Also, in this case, the priest was moved into isolation, away from public contact. The issue was whether he was to be defrocked (much like in U.S. due process, a bishop, even Ratzinger, could not defrock him on his own), which required a legal proceeding that he, being terminal, was not likley to survive.
Again - no defense for abuse of cover-up. The point is that reporting has often been biased by not covering details and not reporting on even more common abuse in other institutions.
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@ciji916 Be careful with wikipedia. Wikipedia isn't a collection of universities, though people at universities may contribute. It is a collection of anonymous, private individuals who write and edit articles. The only editorial review consists of other contributors who read the articles. You could set up a wikipedia account today and submit or change an article with no more information than you gave youtube. It is usually pretty good at self-policing, but hardly authoritative.
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@ciji916 In the recent case reported in the NYT and discussed above, the victims didn't report the alleged abuse to either the Church or the police until years after the fact. When it was reported, the police stated that the statute of limitations had run out, legally preventing them from taking action. I can't blame the police. They followed the law. At the same time, the local dioceses did inform the police when they found out and can't be blamed for gvt. inaction.
It is OK for the church to feel like it is under attack. But, let's not loose focus, the issus is the many children that were left unprotected under its scope. The church should worry less about how it feels...and more about the disposition of the children that it has impacted. The church is not the victim...the children are.
CityofDestiny 1 year ago 27
Well They'd better feel attacked. Why should we even discuss this shit? If a plain citizen commits Pedophilia, they are from jailed to murdered. Why the Fuck should the Priests be any different? Fuck you Pope. Ordinary people have the same rights and obligations to society too
graphattic 1 year ago 12