Dr J Vernon McGee Q&A - Is Tithing for Today?
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@blueskunk12 Amen brother!
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I see that you honestly want to do God's will. All I ask is that you honestly seek what God wants, and let no Man tell you what God wants you to do. Let God be your guide.
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@blueskunk12 Points well made. I still think we need to tithe though. See you on the other side some day brother.
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4) That the seed we sew is not money, blessings, or even good deeds. That the seed is the Word, as it says in Luke 8:11-15.
5) That those who Tithe according to principle deny the words of Jesus in Matthew 23:23, and so call Jesus a liar.
6) That those who Tithe according to law turn their back on Jesus (Galatians 5:4).
7) That we are free to give as we are led, whether that be much or little.
8) That our reward is in Heaven, not here on earth, where moth and rust destroy
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But here's what I believe.
1) The Church is not a building. It's the people in the building.
2) When we give to the Church, we give to other people. Not to a fund that maintains the building, pays anyone's salary, or provides lights and heat.
3) The Biblical Tithe went to the poor: Levites (who had no income), widows, aliens, and orphans. Every third year, the Tithe was consumed by those who brought it.
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You say "When you give to God he fills your storehouses". How is that NOT buying God's blessing?
You say: "Most people who give as the spirit leads them give very little". How does this compare to the widow's mite, who gave less than a penny? Jesus said that she gave more than all the others, who put in large amounts.
And if people are giving as the spirit leads them, isn't that what matters?
I'm not fighting with you, I'm asking questions to see if this makes sense.
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You keep contradicting yourself.
You said: "Most wonder why they are broke. It is because they give what they can spare after they pay for all their stuff! You reap what you sew."
Now you say: "You don't sew to reap materialist rewards".
Which is it?
You said: "We should be giving more than a tenth".
Now you say: "You are free to do what you want with God's resources".
Which is it?
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@blueskunk12 You don't sew to reap materialistic rewards! You sew in order to bless others. When you give to God he fills your storehouses all the more so you can continue to use what he gives you all the more. I am not buying God's blessing.
You are free to do what you want with God's resources. Most people who "give as the spirit leads them" give very little to God. Not saying that you don't give, but most don't give much.
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So which is it?
Either Tithing is part of the law, as you claim with "people should be giving more than a tenth", or Tithing is not part of the law, and we are each free to give as the Spirit leads.
And if we are free to give by the Spirit, then we give without anyone imposing a starting point.
Either Tithing is law, or it's not. It can't be both.
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I think you refuse to argue because your beliefs are not Biblical.
You choose to violate 2 Cor 9:7, which says that there should be no compulsion to give. Insisting that 10% is the starting point means that everything less is an obligation.
Many people do not wonder why they're broke. Jesus said we will always have the poor among us (Mark 14:7).
Only those who think they can buy God's blessing want to sew money and reap a materialistic reward of worldly goods.
I am very grateful that ministers like Bro. McGee were and are honest about tithing not being in the New Covenant. The Church is to be be supported by free-will giving ALONE. We are no longer under the Old Covenant, but under the New and only the New.
shaolinwarriorusa 2 years ago 13
Thank you for this truth.
I was renewed by this Word.
philippeclement 2 years ago 3