Lemonade Liberation Day Cop Says He Would Enforce Segregation
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viva la segregation!
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@promontorium So if the law was to arrest and imprison red heads, the officer should do it?
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@promontorium You are right, following an order isn't the issue here, he said he would do essentially anything as long as it was an order merely because it was an order.
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@goodmendosomething To put this simply, your idea of how society should exist is not the reality of this state by design, and it is unreasonable to think that the agents of this state would follow your personal political theory simply because you want them to. You are judging them as if they are failing in their duty, but they are doing their duty precisely as this nation intended. It is not them that have failed. This nation by design does not view arrest as a moral issue or a violation.
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@goodmendosomething Your micro argument is completely irrelevant to your overall argument. It is simply impossible to have laws, courts, and police without enforcement. Picking and choosing when to enforce a law is counter to the concept of law itself, although police do selectively enforce, this isn't what they are "supposed" to do, and you can't blame cop qua cop. Disagree with the system? Change it. But as is you are wrong. Overthrow the government if you want this fantasy system.
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@goodmendosomething Following lawful orders arresting people for breaking laws that are on the books is precisely what police are for. Changing laws or judging them is what the legislative and judicial branches are for. You are warping an anti-state, anti-law ideal to try to excuse illegal behavior. I appreciate the protest, I disagree with the law, but your argument is invalid, because America is a state, and we do have laws. Your opinion is irrelevant to precise legal proceedings.
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@goodmendosomething That is an absurd interpretation of the "Nuremberg Defense". If all people following any orders are using this defense, then the term has no meaning. I would appreciate, if you are an anarchist to just say that., but instead you hide behind a bullshit appeal to holocaust victimization. I'll say this clearly, because you seem to ignore it, it is impossible to have laws, have a justice system, have police, without enforcement. It would all be meaningless without enforcement.
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@promontorium We were not equating this Officer or you with a Nazi and not using an argument ad Nazium, saying you were "following orders" as a defense of your actions no matter who you are or what the context is referred to as the "Nuremberg defense". I find it unlikely that this Officer would lead people into ovens, but the particular attitude and sentiment that he expressed in this short clip s what allowed such things to occur.
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@goodmendosomething I have applauded everything you've done. However I disagree on one thing, and calling me a Nazi sympathizer won't solve our disagreement. That's pretty low of you. As much contempt as I have for corrupt law enforcement, I believe it is wrong, and backwards to assume you can have a police force that will 100% refuse to enforce any and all laws they even slightly disagree with. KILLING MILLIONS IS NOT EQUIVALENT TO ARRESTING SOMEONE, your argument is invalid and inflammatory.
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This cop actually seems like he is a decent guy, problem is that he is not aware of his own powers of discretion. Lack of education of constitutional law seems to be the main problem regarding police enforcement, I bet you 95% (or more) of law enforcement officers couldnt tell you (off hand) the amendments in the Bill of Rights.
@promontorium It's called the Nuremberg defense for a reason, because it was tried and was rejected. "Just following orders" does not absolve someone if that order leads them to commit an immoral act, and enforcing segregation is immoral.
goodmendosomething 6 months ago 7
So he doesnt care what the laws are--like if they wanted to kill Jews he would probably do it-so fuck em,smash!!
OrganicRobotWarrior 5 months ago 6