Stephen Wolfram's Book: A New Kind of Science

Where does order come from? Where does complexity in the universe originate? Why does the second law of thermodynamics allow for isolated pockets of increasing order in the universe?...

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[cropperb]

Stephen Wolfram has a 1 hour and 45 minute video about this book on Google Video. I HIGHLY recommend it. Its 2 hours of your time that won't be wasted. Watch it twice. And turn off the TV.

[MetaMorphy]

Hmmm, yes, the second law is difficult. However, systems tend to break done really doesn't get to the heart of the concept. However, to save the idea you have, a subsystem can have its entropy decrease while the system as a whole still increases---You have to take the system to be something that exists before a more interesting object you might want to call a system develops.

[cropperb]

Are you saying there are "rules" before there are any "rules" visible?

And saying that the system as a whole increases in entropy while a subsystem decreases entropy... Hmmm... It seems the system as a whole must have gone through a state of general entropy decrease in order to get to the point where entropy can generally increase, no?

[FrankFacade]

hey, I have no problem with you not knowing what you're talking about and going on and on about something you don't understand. It's mildly entertaining, so no worries mate.

Now if you were actually teaching children, I would have a problem with THAT. But that's not bound to happen.

[sinamoeini]

thanks dude for the video

[flexibartrampolin]

@jigarsalman Come on now, Explain to me what math is. Your posting sounds a little arrogant to me. Why don't you encourage him to study math - and even if it's just for the sake of understanding the book?

[flexibartrampolin]

His mistakes are on the philosophical level. His theory is speculative and it goes like this: I have the simple rule to explain anything. You just can't use it because the world is much too comlicated to see it clearly. Well, that is just speculative philosophy of nature. Heraclite did that, Epicurus, Parmenides, Anaxagoras, Leibniz, many others did that, string theory is considered to be an example too. None of these theories is better than any other on the philosophical scale ... sadly.

[HakerzTM]

Stephen Wolfram is very smart

[sourcerror]

"Because the system has rules for evolution that does not make it a determined system. That is the whole point of Wolfram's book."

genetic programming, John Koza

[edgaritoaqui]

the point of Wolfram's books is that the universe is indeed a Matrix!

[petexii]

Great book, but this guy does a crap (boring and oversimplified) job of discussing it.

[itzjezme]

Politics and government are great examples of the simple becoming VERY complex...

[jigarsalman]

You skipped many of the chapters? You dont know much of math! Excuse me? Please take off Aristotles name right this second from ALL youre sites. I will let aristotle`s teacher Plato speak now "Over the door [of the ACADEMY] to it was written: "Let no one ignorant of geometry enter here."" Math is the "Queen of Sciences".

[MeS0Awesome]

"Because the system has rules for evolution that does not make it a determined system. That is the whole point of Wolfram's book."

The use of determined in FF's post atop this thread refers to "deterministic." This is NOT synonymous with "capable of being pre-determined," which is how you are now trying to use the word, I believe.

Let's not be so slippery.