La viola da gamba y el violonchelo

Vídeo didáctico para explicar las diferencias entre la familia de la viola da gamba y la del violonchelo.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• viola_da_gamba
• violoncello
• vilonchelo
• música
• educación
• Bach
• Marais

[mephystovals]

Hola! muy bueno tu video. Una pregunta: ¿Cuál es el nombre de la primer canción, desde 0:11-1:10? Esa incríble. ¿alguna otra que recomiendes con viola de gamba? Saludos, gracias.

[marianmus]

@mephystovals Improvisación sobre las Folías de España de Marin Marais. Hay muchísima música para este instrumento... Jordi Savall es violagambista, puedes empezar por ahí, ya que su repertorio te puede sugerir diferentes compositores. Esta pieza forma parte de la BSO de la película francesa Todas las mañanas del mundo, quizás te guste escucharla (a mí me encanta la selección).

[ropijuc]

no entiendo.....entonces el cello no proviene de la viola da gamba?? eso es lo q tratan de decir??

[Pegasusxy]

Go to the website: orpheon dot org, then add these /OldSite/Seiten/education/Viol­adagambaPage.htm

/OldSite/Seiten/education/Viol­in_Vdg_Families.htm

Here a table with the real differences between the two families. You will be very surprised!

/oldsite/seiten/education/Orig­inVdg.html

[hangrasuave]

Video extraordinário,muito bom mesmo.

[UncleTito72]

@TexasSizzle No yelling. Simply stating what has been found through research through reliable sources. Just because they are similar it does not mean there is a relation. The Egyptians had pyramids and so did the Aztecs. These two groups are not related in any way. Take humans for example (a very broad example), we all have a head, a torso and four limbs with digits. But don't tell me that an Australian aborigine has anything in common with a Viking. Just the overall look of a human. just saying

[Hikikomori013]

@TexasSizzle

I'm sorry, it was a linguistic device.

I draw the parallels between the two instruments, then agree that they are not at all alike. This disconnect causes the viewer to stop, look twice and say, "Why yes, I do see the resemblance now."

You are eviscerating me for fundamentally agreeing with you. I'm not exactly sure why you're so upset that I don't see what I clearly stated that I saw in the first post that you attacked me for.

It was a turn of phrase.

[TexasSizzle]

@Hikikomori013 You are using double talk. You clearly stated there was no relation between the instruments. I think a closer look at history will at least suggest the possibility if not the likelihood that there is an inspirational connection and the fact that physically, there are a lot of similarities while obvious distinctions as well.

[Hikikomori013]

@TexasSizzle

I think that was my point. The cello is a hybrid instrument combining the body and tuning of the violin with the size and playing style of the gamba. It was even originally played with the bow held underhand, like the double bass is frequently played.

The same thing happened in Germany where the cittern lost the re-entrant tuning and the mandolin gained the flat-iron body until the two instruments became nearly identical.

And then there's the viola de amore.

[TexasSizzle]

@TexasSizzle Where I say "violin like Gamba", I do not mean to draw similarity between the instruments, rather the goal is to say that the makers in all likelihood looked at the need of a larger bass producing violin type instrument and then produced the Cello based primarily or at least in large part to the knowledge gleaned by the Gamba's admittedly similar sonority, register and general sympathy. Why is it that both musics transfer so easily to each other? They are kissing cousins I think.

[TexasSizzle]

@Hikikomori013 your knowledge is severely limited due to the faulty teachings of many so called experts. There were indeed early cellos that had C-holes, flat backs and even 5 or more strings in some cases. Besides all this the Viola da Gambe is significantly older than the cello. Now tell me, do you really think it a strech for Italian makers to have looked at the violin, other larger bass level instrumenti and then have come up with the bright idea to make a cello after the violin like Gamba?

[TexasSizzle]

@UncleTito72 You may find Tio Tito that much of the so called scholarship is or has been in the form of "hand me down" scholarly conclusions that have been in part promulgated with peer pressure. Very little evidence actually EXISTS if you want to yell at me proving that the Viola da Gamba is NOT the cellos older Uncle. Again, I stress nothing is ever only black and white. It is high horsed and almost retarded simple-mindedness and sheer pride that refuses to stay open to possibilities. Opn Mind