Xian Caller: Creating the Legend of Jesus - A.E. #585

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Episode: #585
28 December, 2008
Topic: Live Calls. Martin takes on live calls.

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[ChainX]

Eh? Did that caller actually admit defeat? Wow, that's a first in my experience.

[andmarikis]

Way to have the cahones to admit defeat! Score one for civil discourse!!

[greyeyed123]

@trueleroix You must have missed the parts where 9/11 was connected to Iraq? Where Bush said Saddam sponsored terrorists and was attempting to make nuclear bombs? Did you really miss that part?

Again, what was the point of the war? Al Qaeda wasn't there, so that's not it. The FBI and CIA made it clear that there were no WMDs, so that's not it. Democracy is falling apart already, so that's not it. The oil money... wait a second. What happened to the oil money?

[trueleroix]

@greyeyed123 Really, you need to just stop. This video was mostly about weapons of mass destruction, and yellow cake, and such. So, once again you change the subject. So, after showing me these clips that I have already seen, your next move is to tell me again how id need to do research, and i don't know what's going on. Oh yeah, "inform" me that Al Qaeda is not a nationality again. Make sure to annoyingly capitalize a lot of words again too. Bark up another tree.

[greyeyed123]

@trueleroix

watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ

Try to deny this. I dare you.

[greyeyed123]

@trueleroix "I just wondered why you used them seeing that they hurt your own case. "

Yeah, you keep saying that, but notice how you never explain yourself? It's because you CAN'T.

I again implore you to explain how we "won" in Iraq if the Iraqis are going back to exactly the same problems they had before! If UN violations was the problem, we created a bigger problem. If creating a democracy was the goal, that goal is already failing. Any other suggestions? WHY DID WE GO THERE?

[trueleroix]

@greyeyed123 Wow, just read all of this that you wrote, not just this comment, but the others too. My god! The quotes that I supposedly ignored. I did not ignore them. I just wondered why you used them seeing that they hurt your own case. Then trying to inform me where I get my information from!?!?!? That's sad, seeing that I acctually do know where you get the misinformation that you are parroting. Sad. NO MORE RESPONSES WILL BE FORTHCOMING.

[greyeyed123]

BUSH: One of the major theaters against al Qaeda turns out to have been Iraq. This is where al Qaeda said they were going to take their stand. This is where al Qaeda was hoping to take–

RADDATZ: But not until after the U.S. invaded.

BUSH: Yeah, that’s right. So what?

So what? THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE IF WE HADN'T ATTACKED IRAQ! They were centered in AFGHANISTAN! We were already IN Afghanistan. Thank goodness an effective president figured that out and killed Bin Laden.

[greyeyed123]

@trueleroix I will also note that you don't seem to know anything about the political situation in Iraq right now. Typical. You make grand claims about the reasons for huge political decisions, and yet don't know anything about the politics involved or the results of those decisions.

Quit watching Fox News and read once in a while. Iraq has gone right back to the same problems it had before we attacked them. I suppose you think that is "win" for us?

[greyeyed123]

@trueleroix You claimed Rumsfeld never connected Iraq and 9/11. You claimed no one in the administration connected the two. I sent you dozens of quotes disconfirming your claim, and you ignored it. You continued to claim Al Qaeda was in Iraq, when the FBI and CIA said they were not. You claimed the reason for the Iraq War was a UN violation, but somehow the US did all the fighting (and despite the fact that Saddam violated UN resolutions all the time). Try to tell the truth.

[trueleroix]

@greyeyed123 You never apologized for your previous crap. You never acknowledged trying to act like you were informing me of basic facts that I already know. Seriously, you typed twice to me that Al Qaeda is not a nationality. Now you are changing the subject to Iraq's current government, International business, and Scott McClellan? I get it. You change the subject when called out. Don't ever use the word truth again. You are not worthy.