Unlocking the Mystery of Life (Chapter 11 of 12)

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Unlocking the Mystery of Life DVD-- Is life on Earth the product of purely undirected processes like time, chance and natural selection? Or, can the origin and diversity of living organisms be traced to an intelligent cause? Unlocking the Mystery of Life explores these timeless questions and presents compelling evidence to support an idea that could revolutionize scientific thought - the theory of intelligent design. Produced by Illustra Media.

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Science & Technology

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• intelligent
• design
• universe
• creator
• designer
• science
• Darwinism
• Darwinian
• cells
• species
• life
• animals
• biology
• scientific
• ID
• discovery

[betamale3]

Scientific explanations exclude magical explanations because saying something happened by magic is not an explanation at all, its a roundabout way of saying "I DONT KNOW".

Likewise saying "god did it" is a way of saying "I dont know", without appearing ignorant.

[Fulltilt1973]

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

I never made the claim that the majority was right. Science can definitely be wrong. The problem is that you're constantly stating that abiogenesis is improbable when there are a lot of people, with credentials, that disagree with you. So, your statements aren't necessarily true as you constantly suggest.

There aren't inconsistencies or arguments about evolution occurring.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

No, I understand quite well what you're saying. You are reporting claims from one source and asserting that a designer exists without evidence of this designer. You are taking arbitrary concepts and throwing them out there as if they somehow support that which has no evidence for its existence.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

Second, if you're still holding on to the intelligence was used argument, you should therefore conclude that there must be intelligence to account for tissue growth in vivo. Scientists are utilizing what they know from biological systems. It's not a matter of "using intelligence", it's a matter of recreating biological conditions. The biological conditions aren't a bunch of "intelligent processes". They are unguided and driven by physical laws. We simply recreate that.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

You're failing in two ways here.

First, not many biologists agree that the development of primitive life from complex molecules is improbable. That is a view held by the creators of this video and its biased due to their attempt to push ID. While ID claims to not associate with anyone deity, typically those that try to fund ID advocates are of the Christian beliefs. Those people are often the ones that have a problem with science without god.

[hihelloheyhowsitgoin]

@TheSeventhSon

How did they succeed in what is supposed to be impossible? How would we exist if cells could not be created? Its the improbability of the cells being created by chance that is the problem. What I am saying is that it doesn't really prove much if they can describe the processes and create life because of their knowledge of it. In the end, they are intelligent beings and these cells have been created by intelligent designers. Thats why it doesn't do much against intelligent design.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

They applied biological principles to a biological system. Your argument is comparable to saying that applying growth factors to a tissue culture doesn't accurately resemble in vivo tissue conditions because someone had to use intelligence to figure out that you need to apply growth factors.

Nevertheless, they succeeded in what is supposed to be impossible. To think that they won't continue to build on this research is absolute ignorance.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

We don't know a lot of things. We don't fully understand abiogenesis. We can't synthesize a lot of natural occurring compounds. We can't recreate organs currently. That's not to say we won't be able to in the future.

No, I'm suggesting that they are inherent in the universe. That seems to be the case.

I need evidence to support your claim. If you're going to insist that a designer exists, you need evidence.

[TheSeventhSon]

@hihelloheyhowsitgoin

Intelligence was used...to recreate conditions that are necessary to create a cell. Seems to make plenty of sense. That's a pretty typical ID argument.