Martin Luther wrongfully switched from the Greek Septuagint to the Hebrew Mesoretic. The Septuagint was the accepted canon of scripture during Jesus' time and the Jews some time after Christ pilferred the Septuagint of all the books that were originally written in Greek claiming that it can't be divinely inspired if it's not in Hebrew. This is not so for "God shows no partiality."
@Roguefire05 But also some of the book which were canonized has also been questioned, not to forget. But the Church did indeed recognize them as Canon. Anyway they are indeed good and of importance, Canon or not.
@karpov89 Well it should be remembered that these books DID have questionable authorship and did not claim to be the word of God (not speaking authoritatively, etc). Those are only some of the reasons however. The language issue is important as well.
@Roguefire05 The main reason is that these books was not found in the Hebrew original but in Greek, not that they are so questionable in content. They were indeed found being the word of God, and it is indeed so that they are a part of the Lutheran Bible today; although still apocrypha. They can not be compared with the Gnostic writings.
The books of the Apocrypha were not accepted or canonized in any of the first Christian councils immediately following Constantine. The authorship was suspect; the times and dates, and especially the teaching were a bit questionable too. So, because of that it was not considered God-breathed as the rest of Scripture was. The Catholics decided to bring back some of those books during the Reformation to reinforce their teachings that Luther and the Reformers had strayed from.
As I understand it the apocrypha doe not appear in the King James version and from there others that follow because it did not fit the criteria for what was thought as true and certain Bible text like some of the Gnostic writings..
@Roguefire05 The Church considered them Canon. Had the reformation occured 100 years later; Martin Luther would not argue about these books.
karpov89 3 months ago
Martin Luther wrongfully switched from the Greek Septuagint to the Hebrew Mesoretic. The Septuagint was the accepted canon of scripture during Jesus' time and the Jews some time after Christ pilferred the Septuagint of all the books that were originally written in Greek claiming that it can't be divinely inspired if it's not in Hebrew. This is not so for "God shows no partiality."
bob21294 5 months ago
@Roguefire05 But also some of the book which were canonized has also been questioned, not to forget. But the Church did indeed recognize them as Canon. Anyway they are indeed good and of importance, Canon or not.
karpov89 1 year ago
@karpov89 Well it should be remembered that these books DID have questionable authorship and did not claim to be the word of God (not speaking authoritatively, etc). Those are only some of the reasons however. The language issue is important as well.
Roguefire05 1 year ago
@Roguefire05 The main reason is that these books was not found in the Hebrew original but in Greek, not that they are so questionable in content. They were indeed found being the word of God, and it is indeed so that they are a part of the Lutheran Bible today; although still apocrypha. They can not be compared with the Gnostic writings.
I think it should be mentioned in this class too.
karpov89 1 year ago
The books of the Apocrypha were not accepted or canonized in any of the first Christian councils immediately following Constantine. The authorship was suspect; the times and dates, and especially the teaching were a bit questionable too. So, because of that it was not considered God-breathed as the rest of Scripture was. The Catholics decided to bring back some of those books during the Reformation to reinforce their teachings that Luther and the Reformers had strayed from.
Roguefire05 2 years ago
As I understand it the apocrypha doe not appear in the King James version and from there others that follow because it did not fit the criteria for what was thought as true and certain Bible text like some of the Gnostic writings..
john91722 2 years ago
no mention of the apocrypha? I guess this is a Lutheran class, but still...
XSC3 2 years ago