Uploaded by ProfMTH on Aug 10, 2009
The fourth in a series of quick looks at biblical oddities.
For my believing friends, please keep in mind that the Hebrew word 'shamayim' is used to describe both the place where Elijah was taken up AND the place where Yahweh lives (see, e.g., Psalm 2:4, Psalm 11:4, Psalm 14:2). In Exodus 24:10 when Moses, Aaron, and the elders of Israel "saw the God of Israel," they saw him walking in "the sky" (Hebrew = shamayim).
Link to the playlist for the series:
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Music: "Up, Up, and Away"
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no no no no no. the funny part is that this makes jesus' 'miracle' with bringing lazerus back kinda lame. apparently anyone can partake in that old nemesis of christianity called necromancy - even jesus! XD maybe his omitting of elijah in john is to remove the 'oh wait! someone did this already!' part of bringing men back to life?
infernalone666 3 days ago
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I can hear it now...Christian apologist says, "We all start in Heaven as tiny little souls that descend to Earth and attach themselves to that single cell that results from the union of sperm and egg. So unfortunately, Jesus was being totally redundant when he said that. He must have blanked on that piece of common knowledge because Mary hit his head on the manger when she laid him in it. Come on atheists, is that all you've got?"
ChipArgyle 1 week ago
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Ha! That's funny. Now let's find out how the apologists rationalize that one!
Did you take it out of context?
Was it a translation error?
Do you have to read the Bible in its original Hebrew (OT) or Greek (NT) to get the "true meaning"?
Is there an arcane passage later on in the Bible that nullifies it because one of the later authors found the error and fixed the boo boo?
Chime in kids, time's a wasting!
ChipArgyle 3 weeks ago
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The music is really what does it.
jordanowen42 3 weeks ago
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@jony1710 there are some creationists that do attempt to prove creationism with science, and they make some good arguments in some areas, but in other areas, whent hey don't have an answer for the science, they immediately revert to unquestioning acceptance of a scriptural claim. i believe we should all be humble enough and be willing to say we don't know when someone asks us a question we can't answer. and then, after that we should try and find an answer
carlsonap16 1 month ago
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@carlsonap16 i agree, creationism has its place in explaining the world to people who have little interest in the truth. Just because scientists don't have a definite answer does not mean that creationism should be taught in its place. Creationism just does not fit the evidence.
jony1710 1 month ago
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@jony1710 i'll say one thing: if creationism did not have scientific support, then it would be wrong. i would encourage all interpretations to be studied as long as they are approached from a scientific perspective. many have tried to argue that creationism should be taught in the classroom. that should only be the cass if they can present actual scientific theories and not mindless quotations from Scripture. a science class is intended for science and not theology.
carlsonap16 1 month ago
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@jony1710 sure there are ones who do ? some things, but they often never question the foundation.they are a few oddballs here and there who dance with these kinds of ideas.but there is usually an unspoken rule of certain topics you are not to question because to do so would be absurd "obviously".also mainstream science silences the voice of these few loners.it is difficult to change the perception of the world especially when money and tradition is involved.tradition is powerful and controlling.
carlsonap16 1 month ago
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@carlsonap16 if you are under the impression that any academical thinks that what is written in papers/text books is law then you are very wrong. Just look at the faster than light neutrinos. these people have found evidence that contradicts the theory and have asked people to poke holes in there experiment but are still considering the alternate hypothesis that they are FTL. Some physicists are even theistic albeit not religious. a prime example was Eisenstein.
jony1710 1 month ago
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@jony1710 i don't think its an impossible request,but you have stated your honest beliefs so i thank you for expressing yourself.i intend to proe what the truthi s on the matter in the future.whether it be evolution or creationism.whatever the case,i seek to prove it thru the science.i already have many great theories which are underdeveloped.one ex is why humans have no hair.reason is we wear clothes,& over time,the genetic code responded to our wearing of clothes by coding it into the system.
carlsonap16 1 month ago
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I love these videos. Btw, Enoch also ascended into heavan
piggygurl44 5 months ago
@piggygurl44 Thanks. Glad you're enjoying them. And, yes, I know. :-)
ProfMTH 5 months ago