FIGHTING TALK - Chapter FOUR - ANTI FASCIST ACTION 1993 AFA antifa Red Action Mensi Angelic Upstarts

Chapter FOUR of the 1993 documentary made by Anti-Fascist Action for the BBC2 Open Space documentary series. Mensi of the Angelic Upstarts gives a rundown of the history of militant anti-fascism in the UK from the 1936 Battle of Cable Street against the Blackshirts, through the 1970s against the National Front and the Battle of Lewisham through to the war on the streets against the British National Party in the 1990s

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[hilletehnoob]

@GangstaModeSthlm marxism did

[GangstaModeSthlm]

@hilletehnoob Communism didn't even exist in the 1890's?

[hilletehnoob]

"divide the working class","financed by the rich",blablabla,this guys are completly out of reality,their propaganda keeps the same bullshit since the 1890's,what a bunch of brainwashed assholes communists are,they repeat their tapes over and over again.

[hilletehnoob]

i am still waiting for the BBC to give some time to nationalists so they can freely express their opinions like this douchebags did.

[yabigspoon]

@rbolt2010 Also - can you provide examples of 'liberal identity politics' in UAF?



[yabigspoon]

@rbolt2010 There are inherent problems with UAF for example the failure to link the anti-cuts struggle to the anti-fascist struggle at present. But come on say to UAF demos are about 'chav bashing' is a bit rich. Our starting point has be attempting build as broad anti-fascist movement as possible whilst keeping it radical. This means working with Labour members but challenging them when they capitulate to the lies about immigration.

[rbolt2010]

@yabigspoon The problem is that UAF does not have an explicitely pro-working class agenda - there's too much emphasis on liberal identity politics and not radical class-based politics. I get the impression that UAF demos are as much about 'chav bashing' as opposing the BNP, or about 'educating the ignorant rabble'. AFA was successful was because it addressed the anger of white working class people who might be tempted to vote for the far right - it didn't look down on them.

[yabigspoon]

@rbolt2010 Hope Not Hate are shit, I'll give you that. But what middle class liberals in UAF? As far as I see its predominatly workers and youth who are members and youth who they mobilise against the fash. There's problems, but just look at what went down in Tower Hamlets just other week. Successful, no?

[28clockwork]

MENSI IS A FAT NORTHERN FANNY

[MultiJimbo1970]

good vid but there is still that dodgy left wing habit of calling national socialisam fascist they are both horrible but the left tend to prefer to ignore that the ns doctrine is partly based on communisum{hitler was head of security for the german communist party}where as facist doctrine is purely top down politics national socialisam is bottom up.trust me most boneheads laugh when they are called fascist it all gets complicated when you throw in oparation snowdrop by the kgb