Twin Cities Hospitals Want to Copy ... Toyota?!

Some Twin Cities hospitals are apparently proud of the fact that they model themselves after Toyota ... and while this "Lean Production" method might make hospitals higher profits, it puts patient safety at risk! Learn more: http://www.mnnurses.org

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Nonprofits & Activism

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• Minnesota Nurses Association
• Toyota

[robertzoobomb]

@chuckoverbeck

The big problem is that most hospitals and nursing homes are really bad. They treat employees and patients like crap. They don't do "continuous quality improvement". How do you suggest we provide incentives for better patient care and employee retention?

[chuckoverbeck]

@robertzoobomb I was raised by a nurse. She would never walk out on patients.

[robertzoobomb]

@chuckoverbeck I am a nurse and I am fiercely committed the the safety and well being of my patients. Part of that commitment requires making systemic changes to the way that health care is delivered. Mandatory staffing ratios are a critical safety issue for both patients and nurses. Unions are the strongest force advocating that. So it is clear that nurses unions add value to patients lives by promoting safe conditions in hospitals

[robertzoobomb]

@robertzoobomb

Hi Chuck, I am guessing your not a nurse? We nurses protect peoples lives everyday. Good nurse to patient ratios save lives. The only people enforcing and promoting nurse patient ratios are the unions. Without a union, individual nurses have little power to make systemic change.

[chuckoverbeck]

@robertzoobomb No it's not. Nurse's Unions don't care about patients any more than Teacher's Unions care about students.

Unions are a non-value add. They deliver nothing to health care and only suck money out.

[mgraban]

@bjm3986 I thought we were talking about Lean, but y'all are obsessed with executive paychecks apparently. Research hospitals like ThedaCare, where nurses are working in teams with pharmacists and doctors to improve patient safety through Lean -- mortality has decreased, med reconciliation errors are virtually zero... saying Lean will definitively harm patient safety is out of touch with reality.

[mgraban]

@bjm3986 35 to 60 patients, what are you talking about? I agree patients should be treated as individuals, you want to lump lean advocates into "people like you" categories -- what is that all about? You don't know me, don't make assumptions.

[32magic1971]

@mgraban I know plenty about hospitals. I have a wife and many many cousins, friends and a mother in law in nursing. Lean practices as they are wanting in the cities WILL BE VERY DANGEROUS. There are safe numbers of patiants and then there are the numbers the OVER PAID execs want to pass down the line.

[robertzoobomb]

@chuckoverbeck

Hi Chuck. The value of joining a union for nurses is to protect patients from predatory money hungry hospital administration.

[bjm3986]

@mgraban You have never actually followed a nurse going from 35 to 60 pts. People like you forget that each pt is a different situation, an individual, not a DRG.