Steve Miller Gives A Tour of Ocean Way Drums

Here award-winning producer/engineer Steve Miller takes you on a tour of Ocean Way Drums from Sonic Reality and Ocean Way Recording. Get an in depth overview of features, screen shots and more from this high end virtual drum instrument software.

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[onixadm]

Love the mixosaurus more, but this 1 is awesome too

[Teambr00klyn]

I have this kontakt instrument and it's a dog to use. The programming in the NI drums is much better. It sounds good but not worth the hassle to program it IMHO. It's badly in need of an update

[sonicreality]

@hateymchater Well you never know. Could happen. We are experimenting with new kits and seeing what can be done there. Sometimes that work migrates over to other products (like it did for OWD SE for example). As for something being too much trouble... miking up a drum kit is much more trouble! But worth it too. Again, I go by the sonic results I'm after first and convenience second. Both are still important though ideally. These things are always more complicated than anyone really knows.

[hateymchater]

@sonicreality I withdraw my earlier comments about lazy programming. That was mean, I am just a bit frustrated with it. It's a shame that this product can't be improved to the level of the NI Kits for example. I'm willing to go to a bit of trouble for good sounds, I use hardware, just for me, I think it's too much trouble. I hope someone will see fit to rescue this product one day

[sonicreality]

@hateymchater First, it's not up to us. But it would be a major expense to do it AND preserve the valuable mix preset data. We've since changed our approach and do mix presets differently... and you can save back other SR Kontakt-based drum products easier. We actually DID apply our latest scripts to Ocean Way Drums SE which we carry but it's stereo kit pieces not discrete mics with their mixes... but it saves back easier. I know. It's a trade off. But worth it for the sound you get.

[sonicreality]

@sonicreality To top it off it's not up to Sonic Reality it's up to them. It's their product we just helped them make it. We have done more advanced scripts for our other Kontakt-based drum products and they have their own unique sounds (famous drummers etc.). But keeping up with the latest Kontakt features is not easy. I'd love to get some new KSP programmers actually and I'm all for fancy features too. But we do more than just Kontakt.

[sonicreality]

@hateymchater I'm a user of the product too and my experience has been amazing as have many others. I personally only need great mixable sounds playable from the keyboard and off I go. But, to each his own. The value of the product is that it is the sounds of Ocean Way by Sides and Miller. To reprogram it with new scripts we'd lose the original script mix presets which are also a huge value. These guys mix platinum albums and their time is not cheap. They won't redo it again.

[hateymchater]

@sonicreality Right, so why not improve this product? Would it be really so expensive to get a KSP programmer in to jazz it up a bit? This is the best sounding kit i agree, and I like the imap template. You could even charge a bit for the update, then I can start using it again without getting depressed about how my sounds changed because i didnt remember to save it all correctly

[sonicreality]

@sonicreality It sounds great and when someone hears your music they don't know (or care) what you used or how fancy the programming was in the GUI of the product you used. But, in terms of user experience there is no argument that there are more advanced scripted Kontakt plug-ins since OWD. They just don't have the same sounds so it is a matter of preference. A trade off of latest Kontakt features vs. a specific sound that is unique to OWD. But I do get your point.

[hateymchater]

@sonicreality Im sorry , i mean no disrespect to your programming department. Maybe they did work hard on this, but your competition is far in advance of this product. Considering the rather large cost of this product, you should consider taking a look at your rival products to this which work far easier and better. I agree the recording is great, but the programming is poor compared to its competitors. I am speaking from the user experience of this product which i can definitely say is bad