Stem Cell Ethics Made Simple
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Stem cells are... just cells.
When a fetus developed a brain, a nervous system.. that is when it becomes a human. A human isn't a group of cells that can't think. I think therefor I am?
Right?
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@lisa89 Wrong, A human being starts at conception
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@RabidApe grasping at straws.. what desperation for self justification. A sperm left to it's nature is totally inert. A woman's egg left to it's nature is totally inert. A fertilized egg inside of a woman left to it's nature is the definition of conception and left to it's nature develops into an adult. Stupid arguments are going to get you no where. There is a right and a wrong and destroying a fertilized egg that IS a developing human being (yes he/she IS a person) is wrong PERIOD.
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@7F0X7 But the Jews could feel the pain and think about it. The embryo doesn't even have a brain yet.
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Finially a rational opproach to this issue, rather than ad hominems or pathotic appeals
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This video is missing the whole point. A fly is a fly and human being in development is still a human being. The number of cells in either is irrelevant. Taking stem cells form a fetus and destroying it is no different than abortion. It's still wrong and it doesn't matter if it produces good ends. The medical research from torturing Jews in the holocaust produced good ends for the field, but that didn't make it right.
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This video is a mindless rhetorical manipulation of the stem cell debate. It's NOT a religious issue. It is a scientific issue. A human embryo = a human being in the embryonic stage of development. Therefore, it is a scientific fact that to destroy a human embryo IS to destroy a human being. There are perfectly logical reasons to oppose the involuntary use of human beings (in any stage of development) for scientific research. Adult stem cells come from skin and other tissue, and harm no one.
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@supleted somatic stem cells are useless as they only turn into skin. iPS cells are different; that is when u take NORMAL skin cells and revert them back to their Embryonic Stem Cell state, which actually has a HIGHER risk of cancer then embryonic SCs. this is because not only are then undifferentiated, but they are made with oncogenes (cancer-causing factors). Also the rate at which embryonic SCs divide doesnt cause cancer as their growth is controlled in labs. next time, please check ur facts
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@punkwasher lets hold a person underwater for 10 minutes... it dies. I guess those aren't people either.
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i think, more important then the talk of souls, is the talk of what is human I do not think cell count is a viable option for the obvious reasons. On a scientific level I'd have to say that it's a matter of dna. and Embryo's have human dna.
Alivefornow 2 years ago
"On a scientific level I'd have to say that it's a matter of dna. and Embryo's have human dna"
the skin cells that flake off of your butt cheeks have dna, too. ;D
RabidApe 2 years ago 12
bringthegnar: there is a problem with your logic. Sperm has the potential to fertilize life but discarding sperm which has potential to become life and discarding an embryo in which life is already manifest is not the same.
To answer your question why it is unethical. If you can't point to a distinct biological measureable point at which life begins then using the unborn,newborn, and handicap for research all become gray morally. Life begins at conception everyone knows that....
superbill2 2 years ago
"discarding sperm which has potential to become life and discarding an embryo in which life is already manifest is not the same"
Is having a full set of chromosomes the deciding factor for you?
What makes an embryo (which is bound for the dumpster, anyway...) more special than one of my blood cells?
Do you weep for the millions of skin cells that you discard every day?
(Each of which, by the way, given our current medical technology, is a "potential human being"...)
RabidApe 2 years ago 3
"all become gray morally"
Morality IS gray. Welcome to reality.
RabidApe 2 years ago 3