Marcos Speech, 10/21/2006 Part 1 of 2

Subcomandante Marcos @ Comisión de Sexta, Video Shot by Wayne Sunstine translation by Rocio Magaña

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[Rhialt0]

I love how whenever someone stands up and says the system is rigged the immediate response is 'get a job commie.'

[iganduyan07]

@chrispollock no they won because they are the only who could address the social distress. that's what favors dictators. of course, capitalism teaches you how to be independent but that jst means you'll feed into other men, step on them. to give everyone freedom is like unleashing a mass of criminals, some people didn't even have the chance to rise up while some people don't need to because they are born in the higher rung of the social ladder. capitalists can't provide enough

[chrispollock]

Respond to this video... the fascists almost won because of superior military and police state conscription. the individuals under the nazi regime received their daily rations and welfare from the state like sheep. this conditioned germans to become helpless without government support. in the usa, individuals were conditioned to become mature and responsible because the government did not subsidize their lives. self reliance makes you stronger.

[chrispollock]

@iganduyan07 chiapans were not abused, they were introduced to the real world of the market in which they had few skills. so they needed to learn and rise in the ranks of the capitalist market by starting at the bottom. they got frustrated with this and instead of just working hard to become capitalists themselves, they ran the other way like children and asked their tribal councils to look after them like sheep. a capitalist society requires hard work. command society requires slavery.

[chrispollock]

@iganduyan07 well either you are a troll, or you are an extreme right fascist, the equally dangerous polar opposite of the extreme left socialist or statist. in non capitalist societies, workers are not free to interact with each other economically; workers are under the boot of state leadership interests and have no economic lives of their own. case closed. bye.

[iganduyan07]

@chrispollock and i'm more of the extreme right, which does not only protect workers but also culture. worked out so well for the nazis even at the height of the great depression, they are an envy to the world.

[iganduyan07]

@chrispollock good theory, let's get back then to the video. why did the EZLN arose huh? chiapans were abused by capitalists. they were given no work because they are not fit to because they have no education. and they have no education because they have no work and they can't afford it even the medical bills. command society will make them work and protect their community, individualism is not practical here. their service is the only capital they have.

[chrispollock]

@iganduyan07 in capitalism, people offer things of value to others to make profit and rise on merit and ability. in non capitalist societies, the leadership decides every facet of your life and denies you economic freedom and opportunity. all leftist attempts to create non capitalist societies have ended in misery and oppression. you, and all supporters of the EZLN, are morally bankrupt and would rather see chiapans work like dogs in a field for a tribal council than be free.

[iganduyan07]

in capitalism people step on each other to rise up. some didn't even have the chance to rise up. now tell me if you deserve to be free.

[iganduyan07]

weak? worked out so well for the facsists who almost conquered the world, and you call that weak? capitalists are the weak ones, they can't live without money.