Dealing with Loss without God - A.E. #580

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Episode: #580
24 November, 2008
Topic: Religion Inspired Child Abuse. Jen explores the implications of teaching children they're inherently evil.

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[youbetzler]

@dejesusluisx Actually there is substantial evidence to magnetism, evidence that is measurable, testable and falsifiable.

[dejesusluisx]

@youbetzler Our experience show us there are plenty of phenomena that exists without evidence. Take magnets, we know there must exist something between the magnet and the iron that pulls them together, there is no evidence for it's existence, but we know is there.

[youbetzler]

@dejesusluisx No however there is no logical reason to believe something exists without evidence. So it is perfectly logical. I didn't say it was evidence of absence, it is evidence of non belief being completely justified. There is a substantial amount of theoretical physics behind the graviton hypothesis. The god hypothesis however is supported by child molesting illiterate goat herders translated copies of copies of copies of translations of copies.

[dejesusluisx]

@youbetzler ""There is absolutely no tangible testable evidence to support the existence for god ergo there is no reason to believe a god exists"" that argument is far from being logical or reasonable because absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. There isn't a single shred of evidence for a particle called graviton, and yet scientists are spending billions trying to find it.

[youbetzler]

@dejesusluisx What evidence did he present to you? If logical arguments = evidence for you then i can prove there is no god. There is absolutely no tangible testable evidence to support the existence for god ergo there is no reason to believe a god exists. That is equally if not more logical than any argument for the civil rights movement.

[dejesusluisx]

@youbetzler ""You somehow take the word of people"" are you really paying attention? I didn't took the word of anyone, what I did was to look for God, honestly and sincerely, and after a few yrs of searching and praying, God manifested, He showed me evidence, and He directed me to understand His true essence. After that I began to read the Bible (I didn't before, I was a non-believer) and I have confirmed through metaphors the revelations I've received. Open your eyes...

[dejesusluisx]

@youbetzler as I said, the evidence where good logical arguments, it is useless to enter into debating each of those, it would just deviate the discussion.

[youbetzler]

@dejesusluisx So you admit that God was attributed as an explanation for things previously not understood yet you maintain that you don't have to prove gods existence. You somehow take the word of people who used to think the world was flat, the earth the centre of the universe, lightning the hand of god, etc. And try to push the burden of proof on rational thinkers purely because you know you cannot provide a lick of evidence to support your god delusion.

[youbetzler]

@dejesusluisx Tell me than what was the evidence. Because it wasn't popular vote that free'd the slaves. In fact the majority would have voted against it if given the chance however the leaders of your country did what was right, not what everyone else thought. There is no evidence to support it you're just pulling shit out of your arse.

[dejesusluisx]

@youbetzler ""the god of every religion does not exist"" no, you just have proven dogmas created by men in trying to understand a transcendent reality people felt, were not real. Of course you would expect the understanding of primitive men of things like energy, the universe and the forces that directs it, would be completely off. We know better now, is time to see God in light of our current understanding.