Purgatory

The Catholic Church on Purgatory:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm


The Catholic Church on Baptism:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02258b.htm
http://www.catholic.com/library/Infant_Baptism.asp
http://www.catholic.com/library/Baptism_Immersion_Only.asp


**REFUTING ZKUEKER88'S CLAIMS**

1. Unbiblical

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0010sbs.asp
http://www.catholic.com/library/purgatory.asp
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0511sbs.asp
http://www.catholic.com/library/Roots_of_Purgatory.asp
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a94.htm
http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap090400.htm
http://www.smcenter.org/evidence.htm
http://www.smcenter.org/teachings_does_purgatory.htm
http://www.smcenter.org/teachings_purgatory.htm
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/purgatory.html


2. Undermines Christ's Death

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0010sbs.asp
(Talks about it towards the bottom of the article)

--Salvation is a Process:

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0502sbs.asp
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0203sbs.asp
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html#salvation-VII
http://www.catholic.com/library/assurance_of_salvation.asp
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1991/9109chap.asp


3. Justification is by Faith Alone:

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1997/9710chap.asp
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9911fea1.asp
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a126.htm
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a134.htm
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a53.htm
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html


4. Purgatory is a Work

(Catholics do not believe purgatory is a work, but rather, a grace from God)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm
http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0010sbs.asp
(Towards the bottom of the article)

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[thinzki44]

My own opinion if you are not good enough person and youll die you will not go to Heaven but in purgatory..but those bad people the sinners will go directly to hell..

[SeptemberCatholic18]

@thinzki44 Not exactly how it works. Eventually everyone ends up in heaven or hell. Purgatory is simply a "cleaning stage" before heaven, if you will, for people who are saved, but still have some imperfections. It lasts a while, and then the person moves on to heaven.

[JeffersonDinedAlone]

@SeptemberCatholic18 Purgatory is a silly myth, utterly pointless. Only a decidedly ignorant fool would believe that you spiritually park for some indeterminable amount of time in order to be "refurbished" ( by some indefinable process which no one can genuinely explain or describe), as though Christ's behavior on our collective behalf just wasn't quite sufficient.

[SeptemberCatholic18]

@JeffersonDinedAlone St. Paul does a pretty good job of explaining it in 1 Corinthians 3:10-15.

[2000deg]

Does the soul or the body go through purgatory?

[SeptemberCatholic18]

@2000deg The soul goes through purgatory while the body awaits the general resurrection. In the end, we will all receive our bodies back in a perfected, glorified state. Our souls, once fully sanctified, experience the presence of God until then.

[JeffersonDinedAlone]

@bheadh Let's make a deal, you and I. Don't put words in my mouth, and I won't put words in yours. No one is insulting anyone here "in the name of Christ, Jesus", as you so ignorantly, and erroneously, put it. I can speak for myself far better than you could ever presume to speak for me, which is quite apparent already. If you wish to believe that you are destined to hover in vapor until you learn how to behave, then don't be surprised when you are considered to be an idiot for it.

[JeffersonDinedAlone]

@bheadh No one can genuinely insult you unless you are insecure in your perspective. In this case, you would be insecure in whatever belief system you ascribe to. Your problem, certainly not mine.

[bheadh]

Jesus said, "he who calls you raca, thou fool, is in danger of hellfire". This person did his best to explain his veiw with humility and reverence using Holy Scripture to back it up. ..."which no one can genuinly...or describe"...Sir, describe heaven for me!!?? "Eye has not seen, ear has not heard, nor the heart of man CONCEIVED, what God has PREPARED for those who love Him". Your condescending attitude and insulting rhetoric didn't "explain" nor answer anything either. Are you also a "fool"?

[bheadh]

@JeffersonDinedAlone I think the person who made this film explained the issue quite well using Holy Scripture to back it up. Jesus said "but he who calls you raca ..thou fool... is in danger of hellfire" Why are you insulting others in the name of Christ, Jesus? This isn't the example left to us by the Lord, Jesus.Your un-Christlike words and condescending attitude say alot about you. God bless you. I'll pray for you.

[yellowballpoets]

@leouch20 In 1 Peter 3:18-20 it talks about the prison of souls,were Christ brought out souls.In both cases that can't be hell.

[leouch20]

@yellowballpoets i think Hades is Hell