The Madness Of William Lane Craig: The Moral Argument

My commentary on Dr Craig's Moral argument for the existence of god.
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[Roper122]

@ITTutorCanada " your arguments have degenerated into correcting my typos. Good job, you proved that I make typographical errors "

- Well.. normally I wouldn't, but you did call me a wall...

" You beat me! "

- Actually I beat you because you don't really understand the physics behind what you are trying to quote.. you just take Craig's word for it.

" you keep coming up with statements that are not anywhere to be found "

- Except in the entire interview from which that clip was taken.

[ITTutorCanada]

@Roper122 hahahahah your arguments have degenerated into correcting my typos. Good job, you proved that I make typographical errors. You beat me! You win! You must be the enlightened one of us. As far as your final statement, which was your last feeble attempt to argue with the blatant truth, well what can I say? It's there in plain english, and you keep coming up with statements that are not anywhere to be found. I actually had to check that I sent u the right link, that's how bad u are.

[Roper122]

@ITTutorCanada " it's like talking to a wall but technically the wall display more intelligence "

- Displays... more intelligence.

" that weather we live in a multi or a universe "

- whether we live

" ultimately there was a beginning from which all things must have come from. "

- No actually he's not... he's saying that he may have mathematically proved that if we extrapolate into the past, there must be a beginning to inflation, especially with regards to the multiverse.

Get it?

[ITTutorCanada]

@Roper122 LOL man, it's like talking to a wall but technically the wall display more intelligence, because it can reverberate my own words back to me. He is saying in conclusion that weather we live in a multi or a universe, ultimately there was a beginning from which all things must have come from. This is easy to understand, if you were not an idiot. The universe is finite, that is the point. We do not live in an eternal realm. Everything, including our universe is a borrowed-lender. Get it?

[Roper122]

@ITTutorCanada " You don't understand even basic english. "

- Phew.. for minute there I thought I didn't understand physics... oh right, that'd be you.

Sorry, but if that's a paragraph that proves anything, then your logic is as bad as your physics.

So with " assumptions " you " could show " ... but it's " not clear " ...or " beyond doubt ".. and " doesn't mean "

Gee, pretty firm proof... I can see why you're convinced.

Do you even understand what he's talking about there?

[ITTutorCanada]

@Roper122 "there had to be the mother of all beginnings"

"Uh yes that's right, those issues are still a little unclear so I wouldn't say that those things are shown beyond doubt, uh but with REASONABLE assumption, one could show that even within

the context of inflation with many bubbles forming, there would still be somewhere, an ultimate beginning."

I see the problem now. You don't understand even basic english.

[Roper122]

@ITTutorCanada .... Are you serious? The full quote was..

" Um yes that's right, those issues are still a little unclear, I wouldn't say that those things are shown beyond doubt "

and

" that doesn't mean that that beginning was necessarily the ultimate beginning of all reality "

These are from the same video

And this is your evidence???

You're making it too easy for me.

But yes.. I suspect you are done.

I'm still happily on my horse.

P.S. Don't believe everything Dr Craig tells you

[ITTutorCanada]

@Roper122 rofl did you even watch the video?

watch?v=-aemfYmusSY&feature=g-­user-u

QUOTE:

"...would engender the possibility of there being other beginnings, but I think you and some others have shown that ultimately there had to be some, original, the "mother" of all beginnings"

"Uh yes that's right."

I'm done talking to you. Obviously your delusion is beyond help if you can watch a video that clearly states a fact, and come out believing it states the polar opposite of what it really says.

[Roper122]

@ITTutorCanada " The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin Theorem. Learn something before you come riding in to save the day without a plan "

- Yup.. what about it?

Q: " Does your theorem show that the universe must have had a beginning ? "

A " No. " Alexander Vilenkin.

Not sure what part of that you don't understand...

I'll be over here on my horse if you need me.

[ITTutorCanada]

@Roper122 bbbzzzzzzzzzzzt nope you're egregiously wrong and you're just plain bad kiddo. /watch?v=Z79FGmh50Xo&t=5m18s - The Borde-Guth-Vilenkin Theorem. Learn something before you come riding in to save the day without a plan and... without even knowing what the hell is going on around you as well, apparently.