Freedomain Radio: To Whom Does God Speak?

To those who came before, to us, to you to me? An exploration by Stefan Molyneux, Host of Freedomain Radio, the most popular philosophy podcast on the web - www.freedomainradio.com

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• christ
• moses
• testament
• christianity
• jesus

[ehsanul]

Great argument stefbot, and of course they make great sense when applied to the "scheme of God" you put forward. But I can't help but notice that these arguments don't undermine Islam's "scheme", due firstly to the existence of the Qur'an, and then the fact that it is stated that a man is judged only by what he knows, and is not accountable for that he has no control over. I realize your argument is meant for Christianity, but you seemed to indicate that it was a general problem with religion.

[stefbot]

Do mean that Islam has no commandments that came from Mohammed?

[ehsanul]

Not exactly, that's not my point. One of my points is that the existence of the Qur'an, which is supposed to be the direct speech of God to man (when it says "I" or "We", it's God speaking, and when it says "you", it's referring to the reader), precludes your argument in the first place, for it does not require that God's message be repeated from generation to generation, with the gradual degradation. I'm sure this has happened in history, but the Qur'an is not subject to that, at least not yet.

[stefbot]

But - who wrote down the Koran? Was it never translated? Can it not be misinterpreted? Are there no different schools of Islam? What if a Muslim doesn't speak ancient Arabic?

Thanks! :)

[sidewaysdragon]

marjan15

well you have me convinced. well maybe if you subtract the comma.

[davidngo4415]

because Faith is a disease which destroys the mind. and the individual rational mind is the only thing which prevents the death and carnage caused by collective faith and irrational dogma.

[sswildthing2]

Good video

[esalian9]

Don't worry. The tablet gets easier.

[barrywilliamsmb]

I find these conversations very interesting and pertinent to my continuous learning.

And while another commenter may be right in saying your view is not new, it's new to me so keep it up!

[motokeiru]

The problem is that people try to force religion to others they always have.

Religion is like a poison that tricks people to belive in something that isn't real and make people ignorant and fear a god so they can control them.

[celticlord88]

he is an atheist

[WorBlux]

#2 was joshua

[WorBlux]

Illusion is a tyrant.

[Bluedragon094]

oh... dur dur dur... i totally get it now. Yeah a lot of that is pretty out there. I think most rational thinking people would've gotten the hint that somethings up once the weapons of mass destruction weren't there, but who really didn't see that one coming? Afterall, it's not like Iraq was where Osama was supposed to be. Ah well... that's war and politics for ya.

[adorianvlad]

t3z2, wikipedia doesn't seem to clarify this issue of good and evil; in my opinion, one particularity is to consider the emotional intelligence in regard to it. For example, someone sensitive enough would consider picking a flower from a meadow to be "evil" while for others cannibalism seems to (at least in the past in some primitive cultures) be O.K.

Perhaps there is an evolutionary process regarding good and evil, as well.

As humans evolve, their intelligence (emotional, etc) increases